Kendrick Lamar is Kendrick's run now the longest in rap history?

Started by Disorderly Progress, Nov 26, 2024, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. Disorderly Progress
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    Nov 26, 2024
    In terms of... acclaim. Album after album of high criticial and fan acclaim.

    Like, any artist when they're in their prime zone - it's like they can do no wrong. They can't miss. Then they eventually miss and rarely get back on track, beyond flashes.

    Em's run like that was relatively short (99-03) albiet one of the most powerful. Everything since has its fans and its moments, but he never really got back on track, in terms of critics and fans both being like 'yep, okay, he's on one right now', you could argue 09-013 was a bit of a second run, but not on all those levels. His only real run on every level was 99-03. So that's... 5 years.

    Kanye's seemed longer than Kendrick's in my head, but, I think you'd have to say the run ended at Yeezus; not criticially, it was still fawned over but majorly divisive with fans. I know Life of Pablo is well respected by fans and criticially too, but I'd argue the first chink was seen as Yeezus. Then if you look at everything from Ye-to present... lots of mixed and sometimes negative perceptions.

    So Kanye's, if you consider it CD to Yeezus was... 10 years.

    Kendrick's so far... 13 years.

    I know the last few have Kendrick albums have had a few detractors, calling them overrated or 'boring', but, this doesn't seem to be general or majority fan consensus. Really every album has hit.

    Part of Kanye's decline in perception and reviews is definitely due to his public political views and antics. Much like I believe a lot of Tyler's opposite turn around is because he's now on the right side of the left; it's no coindience every project since 'coming out' is apparently a masterpiece lmao. Who tf makes 4 masterpiece in a row? Very unlikely, and I haven't listened to them all properly, but I do remember Igor being one of the trashest piece of s----s I'd heard at the time...

    So do think perception of the artist has a lot to do with it too. And since Kanye has been espousing anti-sematic and other wacky views and being a general d-ck head... most critics couldn't bare to call something brilliant, even if they thought it. OR, maybe it's that before not everything was as brilliant as they were saying. But the positive perception of his image, political side etc. affected that.

    I wonder if Kanye released Jesus Is King as his 2nd album if it'd be as badly reviewed. Probably would be hailed as an 'inventive turn by an artist daring to wear his beliefs on his sleeves' or some BS lol.

    Don't think many critics or people admit or realise how much their opinon 'of the work' is actually tainted or enhanced by their view of the artist, as a person or whether they agree with their views.

    Anyway,
    TLDR: Is K Dot's run now the longest in rap history? On this level? Can't think of anyone else.
     
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    Only one I can think of maybe in terms of nr1 albums?
     
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    Nah I mean critical acclaim too fam. Jay's was short and spotty on that front. BP 2 was a blip... even before that weren't some of the others a bit spotty, not seen as the best? Not the biggest Jay fan so not sure.

    Thas what I mean, cause Em's no.1 run is 25 years... but, his critical run was only 4-5.

    But, K Dot has a 12-13 run of critical and fan, and commercial now you mention it.
     
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    Kanyes lasted pretty long until the wheels finally fell off after 2018
     
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    Nov 26, 2024
    Honestly probably Kanye. Kendrick might go on a generational run tho at this rate
     
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    If we are going by what the majority thinks then the answer to your question is yes. To a lot of people, including myself, Kendrick Lamar has been dropping albums that are good or better than good from 2012-2024. I guess you could make that 2010-2024 if you really wanna include Overly Dedicated and Section.80.

    Ask certain people here though and they’ll say he fell off during or after d---. Some will say he hasn’t even been good since GKMC. All in all you bringing up Kanye was accurate because he is the only super popular rapper I can think of that is comparable in terms of critical and fan acclaim, but I think Kendrick has lasted longer at this point.

    Side note: Barbed Wire is an underrated cut from Overly Dedicated I don’t see people mention enough. To this day it’s probably still one of my favorite Kendrick songs.
     
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    Nov 28, 2024 at 7:36 PM
    Kanye better, he just lost his mind :jordanlaff:
     
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    Yeez Yeez 5.0

    Nov 28, 2024 at 9:00 PM
    Like others have said, I’d say Kanye’s was longer. His run is odd tho. I disagree with OP, I think TLOP is definitely still continuing his run. Im not the biggest fan of Ye, but JIK is the real outlier because it comes in the middle of ye and Donda. So his “uninterrupted” run probably ends around 16-18 depending on who you ask. I can’t make excuses for V2 though
     
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    Nov 28, 2024 at 9:47 PM
    I remember Kanye was Massive af when I was in elementary. Especially since he was from around my Area in Chicago. Like I legit lived down the Street from Oak Lawn in 2000. My Aunt still owns a house up there. And he became a superstar around 2005 when I was in junior high, but he was already kinda known cuz of his production with Jay and stuff. My cousins use to tell us they knew Kanye, but I use to always know they were just clout chasing. But we did see Kanye in the mall once in like 03’. I also seen R. Kelly at the mall in the burbs back then. A lot of them celebs sometimes randomly would be at Lincoln mall too.
     
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    Nov 28, 2024 at 11:06 PM
    Maybe but Jay Z and Kanye are in the top of that list too
     
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    Nov 28, 2024 at 11:59 PM
    I like Kendrick but you can take the absolute best songs from all of his albums and combine them into one and I can name 50 Classic Albums that will blow that out of the water.

    He's a great rapper but arguably the most overrated of all time in my opinion.
     
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    Nov 29, 2024 at 5:49 AM
    TLOP wasn't incredible, but it was good :kanye3:
     
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    Nov 29, 2024 at 5:52 AM
    Father stretch my hands, fml, and no more parties in la were so dope
     
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    Nov 29, 2024 at 5:59 AM
    It was fine but wasted opportunity to create something amazing.

    s--- like FML and Waves for example are so half assed lol
     
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    Nov 29, 2024 at 6:03 AM
    Yeah, still a bunch of great stuff tho
     
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    Ripper Roo Im doin what COVID did theyll never get over it

    Nov 29, 2024 at 6:04 AM
    Best rapper of all time is burgerfucker tbh
     
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    Nov 29, 2024 at 1:22 PM
    Slim shady? I know he spits in onion rings, but he f---s the beef too?!!! Rap god
     
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    Revisionist history, early Tyler and OF were lauded by critics/p4k/hipster blogs, all the types of places you would consider too "woke" now. It was the actual rap blogs like 2dopeboys and nahright that wouldn't post him at first.
     
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    b---- it may be
     
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