Aug 7, 2016 This thread may have been made before, so if so I apologize. But if not.....do you care if an artist uses ghost writers? I'll make it as an analogy to sports. Some athletes get busted for juicing, but really what they do is entertaining. I mean if you look at Anderson Silva who is arguably the best MMA fighter to do it. He got pinched for PED's. Do I find it tarnishes his career? I don't know, he clearly was very talented and fought very well and just decimated his opponents. Plus the pinch was in the twilight of his career when he wasn't as dominant. Now we switch to rap....when you got a bunch of friends around or you're at a party and you put on Drake 9/10 times people are going to go nuts and enjoy the music. I'm using Drake here because of the callout of him using ghost writers. The music is good, he raps well and sings well, but the penmanship may not be his own. So does it particularly bother you? Or do you not care? I could definitely see it being bothersome if you were an artist yourself. Much like when I played basketball I'd be pissed to find out if my competition cheated. But for the casual person, do you think it really matters? Or better yet does it really matter to you?
Aug 7, 2016 Depends if they're supposed to be telling extremely "personal" stories then yes. But if it's just a club hit or something then prolly not
Aug 7, 2016 depends on the artist really if they're a great singer/ multi instrumentalist that gets help with lyrics to optimise their music making ability thats fine thats what collborating is tbh if its some rapper that cant do s--- else then its pretty sad honestly like if i found out someone wrote a wale verse wtf even is he for at that point but ya depends on the artist
Aug 7, 2016 it matters a lot more for rappers cause rapping is fockin easy dont quote me disagreeing like its anything close to singing or playing an instrument
Aug 7, 2016 if they do have ghostwriters they should at least admit it. guys like Dr. Dre never hid the fact they had writers like what Drake is doing.
Aug 7, 2016 if we're talking about drake i dont really care that much to be honest hes such a proven talent at this point noooooone could do what he does to deny that is ridiculous the fact he gets helps with bars shouldnt matter to anyone that much but dust heads
Aug 7, 2016 Basically this. Like if a Kendrick got exposed for having ghostwriters I'd care and think he was a fa----, but someone like a Kanye I don't care.
Aug 7, 2016 if its an artist i like i dont care If its an artist i dont like then he lost all credibility
Aug 7, 2016 I'm usually fine with ghostwriting unless you literally jack a whole song off of someone i.e. Drake jacking PND's stuff.
Aug 7, 2016 It is interesting but Hip-Hop's foundations have always been to sample or chop up samples to create new sounds. I guess that's why it gets a pass.
Aug 7, 2016 def although sometimes producers get dummy praise for stuff that is literally copy n pasted like people really think kanye is a musical genius for the end of new slaves but it is just someone elses song pasted on there i eman it works amazingly but when u listen to the og song its really not impressive
Aug 7, 2016 theres nothing better than great sampling but sometimes its so blatant and lazy n theres no real way of knowing unless u know the sample
Aug 8, 2016 Of course I care. Writing is one of the most important aspects in hip hop. I only give you a pass if you're dropping an album as a producer
Aug 8, 2016 Not one single bit The end product is what matters to me, how they get there I don't give a s---
