What has been hip-hop's lowest point?

Started by Charlie Work, Aug 1, 2016, in Music Add to Reading List

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    Anything before the late 80s
     
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    Objective measurements exist whether or not you acknowledge them.
     
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    Cole's mixtape era was great tho
     
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    The Cole slander spread here too I just want everyone to be friends
     
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    k--- yourself
     
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    Nah Travis is literally trap Cole.
     
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    not even j cole as trash as nas tho
     
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    Twitter the only safe space for Cole fans :^)
     
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    how can they possibly measure the "quality" of entertainment objectively when they're based on subjectively decided standards.
     
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    Flips a legend :emoji_wink:

     
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    People just play up the hate as a joke in most cases (this applies to more than just cole.)
     
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    The image explains itself pretty well. If someone can't rap a melody that meshes with the melody of the beat, it's an objectively bad flow. If, in addition to that, they aren't good at subject matter/rhyme scheme/any of the hundred of aspects of rapping, they're an objectively bad rapper. It's not that there's a right way and a wrong way-- Jay Z and Young Thug flow in completely different ways and have entirely different styles from the words they rhyme to how they rhyme them but I would say both are amazing.
     
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    there is no "low point" lol what
     
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    it instantly trips itself up when it throws in subjective standards being used to critique objectively somehow lol
    it's off beat, i'll give u that

    that doesn't make it objectively bad. that means it just doesn't match up with a subjective standard. some people may enjoy off kilter lyrics on a melody. infact there are people that do

    don't have time to respond/read the rest cause i have to leave
     
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    There was a time where Bow Wow, Lil Romeo, Shop Boyz, Mims, Hurricane Chris, Chingy & Soulja Boy were everywhere. That was a the most depressing time for rap. Rap became bubble gum p---- music while dressing like a man that just lost 140lbs but still wears his old clothes.


    I don't hate any of them, just stating facts.
     
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    People can enjoy things that are objectively bad. The entire purpose of a flow is to interact with the beat, if you're not properly doing that then you're objectively bad at flowing. People's subjective standard of the enjoyability of that objectively bad aspect doesn't somehow make it not objectively bad.
     
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    Hurricane Chris>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
     
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    if they were objectively bad no one would like them

    also as it stands what counts for objectively bad is currently based on subjective standards, therefore it's not objective
     
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