Dec 16, 2014

http://www.dontfeartheinternet.com/

tf this was written like directly at me

 

Dec 16, 2014

is it ethical to design a site, sell the design to a client, hire a freelance developer and then have them develop the site?

thinking of doing this, at least while i'm learning basics.
someone comes to me for a site
i design it in PS, etc
show it to them, get approval
go to odesk or freelancer or designcrowd or something, get it developed
charge client what I paid the freelancer

is that cool to do or what it feels weird

edit: i guess its not a whole lot different than going to a print/press place. when i do that i generally charge clients a markup on that if they have it printed through me.. still would like some thoughts though @csw621 @JFK @Hasman @Artik Design

 

Dec 16, 2014

yeah the more I look into it the more i see that that appears to be the way to go, unfortunately edge is all in beta (animate, reflow, etc) and isn't producing reliable code at this point and is moreso used for mockup purposes, while muse doesn't have any responsive capabilities at all. works really slow atm so I spent all day watching videos, reading tutorials, doing codecademy basics, etc and yeah it really looks like that's the way to do it. It's so f---in frustrating to have to start at a basic level because i have all these dynamic things I want to start doing right away but it just doesn't work like that off the jump.

however I think im gonna do my coding in dreamweaver for whatever I do, if only because of the live view preview which runs chromes rendering software so you can have your HTML, CSS, JS on tabs on one half of the screen and a live chrome preview on the other half.

 

Dec 16, 2014

yeah, cc2104 added the chrome engine for their in-program live view. the edge products use it as well.

 

Dec 16, 2014

i never sell anyone a site i didn't write myself in notepad

re your question about ethics, i believe technology is too commercialized already

 

Dec 17, 2014

@zoidberg (or anyone else), can someone help me understand this


the order doesn't make any sense to me, why is shift being read first if it's the 2nd style in my header? why is bootstrap first but being read last? why is the last file being read first? hella confusing and the way they explain it makes me think it wasn't done right but that's the combination that gave me 100%

 

Dec 17, 2014

thats what I thought.. weird. must have been a glitch or something in the test. everything else worked fine though.

 

Dec 20, 2014

so close to making my site

only hangup at this point is making one of these and a dropdown menu when the site switches to mobile/tablet

 

Dec 21, 2014

yeah i've been using dreamweaver tbh, they have a CSS styler panel that lets you define different CSS for different media queries, so it's not so much hard for me as it is time consuming. Like I said, only hangup atm is the = navbar thingy and having it create a dropdown when clicked. Recently subbed to lynda.com (holy f--- what a site) and been picking it up pretty fast. that tutorial demo you just linked looks perfect for what i'm trying to do, thanks breh.

 

Dec 23, 2014

Soon to be a software developer checking in,

We outchea

 

Dec 23, 2014

f--- me. every time i start to code and get half way started I begin to look at other sites and wanting to change my layout or whatever. I keep thinking about going to wordpress, then i see bootsrap sites and I keep going to that, then I keep saying f--- it I'll code it all by hand so its original, then I keep thinking anything other than that would look better, especially for my first site. s----s skressful bruh. think im gonna research a bit more into bootstrap and wordpress over the next day or two.

 

Dec 23, 2014

Make a plan!

I don't know what your goals are, but research the industry thoroughly to the point you know what the highest standards of website look like, what they are capable of doing, what direction the industry is heading for in the future. If you're trying to be a web designer, make sure you're top tier on your design work! Say to yourself you're going to design 5 different types of websites, and see how they look next to other websites, do they look as good? better? Practice practice! You'll make improvements without realising when you're doing this s--- over and over. Also expand your skills so you have some stand out appeal, show you can design brochures, flyers and whatnot.

For coding, a decent site is www.w3schools.com. Just keep searching everytime you get stuck. Also buy books if you're serious about it, but I guess it depends on what way of learning you prefer [Internet vs. books]. Once you have a list of short and long term plans, follow them through! Find your favourite site and try replicate it or put your own twist on it. If you have built a solid enough plan, you shouldn't feel the urge to deviate away from it anytime soon.

Make a list for what you want to achieve next year, I've literally planned EVERYTHING I want to do to the littlest detail.

 

Dec 24, 2014

when i get a solid mockup ill post and ask u guys for opinions whenever that happens