Sep 28, 2016 The possibility of the Trump presidency is scary af because he clearly doesn't have good understanding of policies and just peddles vague/racist statements that appeal to the extreme right. A lot of Trump supporters are a very dangerous group of people and he's managed to tap in and invigorate the most racist, ignorant, and uneducated parts of our nation. We are talking about 2/3 of trump supporters who believe Obama is a muslim and 60% still believing he wasn't born in this country. Hillary is not perfect and would not be close to my first choice but her being president is way better than Trump and his ignorant fanbase winning this election.
Sep 28, 2016 Whether he was born here or not is irrelevant. On the other hand there are actually good grounds for suspecting he's a Muslim.
Sep 29, 2016 Its not irrelevant. To be president you have to be born here and he was. That is a fact. There are no grounds for suspecting anything. He's a christian. Not that being a Muslim is bad in anyway but he's a christian. The only reason him being a muslim became a talking point is because his name is Barack Obama Hussein and he's a black man. Racist, uneducated, ignorant far right ran with it and tthats why Trump supporters feel that way.
Sep 29, 2016 Let me revise that statement. It seems like a nonissue when you consider the following. There are grounds for suspecting he is an America-hating Muslim. He is almost certainly not Christian. Read my last reply to Swizz on page 3.
Sep 29, 2016 The thing about that response was, it wasn't true, as is often the case if it came out of Donald Trump's mouth. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-trump-says-if-youre-syria-and-christianyou-/
Sep 29, 2016 Your comments were taken out of context. He was talking about how the minorities are projected to grow in population and will pass the white population by 2050 so if we don't fix the problems in minorities community the country will suffer more in the the future. Also him bring in Syrian refugees from another country is as dumb as any argument as to why he's a Muslim. Because he's accepting of other religions (Muslim and Christian) he must be that religion too lmao. France is doing the same thing and it doesn't necessarily make their politicians Muslims, not like that's a bad thing anyway like you claim. The fact that Obama's Christianity is questioned more than Donald Trump's is laughable. You and Donald Trump are just scared of anything/anyone that's different and the ignorance shows.
Sep 29, 2016 You and the author of that article are missing the point: Obama hasn’t lifted a finger to defend Christianity or to stop Islamic terror—he won’t even say Islamic terror. Instead he just continues to bring in Syrian Muslim refugees, without Congressional approval, by the way. And again my source says 99.6% are Muslims and 0.4% are Christians, which is hardly proportional to “87% Muslims and 10% Christians”. It's not a matter of simple math; there is a very clear bias here against Christians. I notice you didn't address what I said about Obama forcing these refugees on Christian communities. Since we’re posting links, here are a few passages from SE. #1 Spoiler Obama is, by definition, a Muslim, unless he converted to Christianity and I don’t know about it. His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Muslim from Kenya. His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was a nominal Muslim. So what is Barry? Well, according to Islamic law, he is a Muslim. It is handed down through patrilineal descent. Now if one in five Americans or more still think he’s a Muslim, is it not a valid discussion point? When did he convert to Christianity? When was he last seen going into a church—one other than the forum abused by that hate-baiting anarchist Reverend Jeremiah Wright? Don’t you think it’s an issue that is worth discussing in a predominantly Christian nation? A more important question might be, why don’t the media think it’s important? What, do we have to hide the religion of the nation? The founding religion of America has to be hidden? Why is it not hidden in Iran? It’s because atheist Maoists run the country. They’d like you to think there is no religion until, one day, the Muslims are the majority and Obama can sit back in his rocking hair, reading the Quran, and finally announce what we’ve all known for decades. There’s no crime in being Muslim. But how do you argue with facts? If your father is a Muslim and you go to a Muslim school as a child, you are a Muslim unless you convert to another religion. So, he obviously had to have converted to Christianity somewhere along the way because he was a devout churchgoer. For twenty years he went to Reverend Wright’s church, where he learned to hate America and learned to hate everything about America. So he is a Christian of that order, which would be a liberation theologist—a communist—along the order of Pope Francis, which is why that pope was invited to America. But not Benjamin Netanyahu, who is the leader of another state being assaulted by hateful Muslims. Now, let’s be fair and clear on this point: Not all Muslims are against the principles of democracy. Many of them are trying to destroy ISIS. The Muslim president of Egypt, the sixth largest Muslim country in the world, is trying to destroy ISIS. But Obama will not help him. The king of Jordan is a Muslim. But Obama will not send him the heavy weapons he needs to combat ISIS. He will not arm the Kurds in Iraq, who are heroically fighting ISIS. Why is that? Can someone really hate America and Christianity so much that he is willing to stand by and let them be decapitated and crucified rather than send arms to regional allies? It’s not a question of whether Obama is a Muslim. It’s a question of what kind of Muslim he is. Many have said he’s a front man for the Muslim Brotherhood, the outlaw terrorist group that briefly held power in Egypt. I’ve gotten emails from people in the highest levels of the intelligence world who are no longer in the government, having all been purged as was done under Josef Stalin, who swear that the Muslim Brotherhood is running this country. When this kind of fear starts to bubble up from the people, I’ve got to tell you there’s a prairie fire, to use a leftist phrase. Yes, my Democrat leftist friends, there is a prairie fire burning, not on the question of whether Obama is a Muslim but about which side he is on. So on to the next question: What kind of Islam does he practice? Well, let’s see. He’s the only president who doesn’t even pretend to go to church on Sunday. I mean, you have to give credit to Hillary and Bill. Despite shattering most of the Ten Commandments, Bill would chuckle his way into a church on Sunday. At least he pretended to be a practicing Christian to satisfy all the little people out there who in his mind actually go to church and believe in it. Obama doesn’t even make the pretense. He doesn’t pretend to be a Christian. How would you even know he’s a Christian? By what act? Tell me how you would know what his religion is. Does it matter? I think it does matter, especially when we’re under assault by radical Islam and he won’t even say it’s radical Islam. I think it’s an important question, at a time when radical Islam is on the march, to know where our president stands. I asked my housekeeper, who’s from El Salvador and speaks Spanish and some English, “Do you think that Obama is a Muslim?” She’s a devout Christian. She said, “He is a serpent.” She used the Spanish word for “serpent.” I was actually stunned. So maybe he isn’t a Muslim or even a Maoist. Maybe he’s a serpent, like the one that slithered through the Garden of Eden. So where does Maoist, Muslim Barack Hussein Obama leave us when he finally leaves for office to make another apology tour through the Muslim nations, this time as a paid speaker instead of as a president? Maybe he’ll stop in London and apologize to its new Muslim mayor for the American Revolution. He likes bowing to Muslim leaders. #2 Spoiler We are fighting for our life and freedom. Where there’s one-man rule, there’s a chance for great corruption. Because all you’ve got to do is buy off a party official above you and he kicks up to the party official above him, and she kicks up to the party official above her, and it goes all the way up to the top. It’s very much like organized crime. And that’s why we in America enjoyed a great government for a very long period of time until it because what it is now: a Ponzi scheme in a criminal empire that runs off one-man rule where there are few checks and balances. Witness what chairman O did with the Iran deal. The American people opposed it by a large majority. Only 20 percent supported giving Iran a path to nuclear weapons. Think about that. Where’s our representation? Congress opposed it, yet he used quasi-legal maneuvering to support Iran. If that’s not one-man rule, I’d like to know what is. Here is a short list of his crimes and misdemeanors: providing arms to people who would k--- Americans, whether they are Arabs in Gaza or the Mexican drug cartels; using the Internal Revenue Service as a political weapon against legitimate nonprofit organizations that dared to oppose him; changing laws by executive action, rather than the way laws are supposed to be made or amended: through congressional action–Congress, not the president, is the lawmaking body in this country. We aren’t a banana republic–yet. Look at the way he implemented the so-called DREAM immigration law: when Congress didn’t go far enough to carry out his agenda, he just executive-ordered it into existence. We have an openly mad president who is doing everything he can as quickly as he can to decimate everything this country stood for, stands for, and would stand for. Now let’s go down a list of other things that he has done and is doing. Let’s assume that Obama is not a dogmatist, that religion doesn’t really matter. Let’s remove it from the table for the moment. We have the most powerful military on Earth. Why has he not destroyed ISIS? Do you remember how, after the terrorists took Mosul, they had a victory parade? It ran about a half a mile long with Toyota trucks with machine guns on them, a long line through the desert. Well, if President George W. Bush had seen it, you would have seen a highway of death. You would have seen charred corpses on top of the trucks. They wouldn’t be doing war cries today. But Obama didn't even have one missile fired at that convoy. That said it all to me. That was the end of the story. Hussein Obama wasn’t going to lift a finger to defend Christianity or stop Islamic terror. https://books.google.com/books?id=lP_hCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT11&lpg=PT11&dq==onepage&q&f=false Keyword: by. Of course he’ll say that’s the reason, but it’s clear that he will do whatever it takes to realize this dream of his well before 2050. Why do you think he’s pushing for Hillary? Surely one of the reasons is that she's promised to bring in over 5 times as many Muslims as he has. See spoiler #1 above.
Sep 29, 2016 There's so much f---ing ignorance in that spoiler its unbelievable. I think I'm done here. Lmao. I don't have time to go back and forth with someone who is so h----bent on pushing this dumb a--- narrative. Someone says they are Christian, goes to church, but they are not a christian. Now you are basically deciding his religion for him but Donald Trump, the most hateful, fascist, racist candidate we've ever seen doesn't get his religion questioned and all he has to say is "I think its a great book." I hope you open your eyes bro. Thats all I can say.
Sep 29, 2016 Obviously you didn't even read the whole thing or bother to think about it before you posted. The author of that book is anything but ignorant. He's been studying politics probably longer than you've been alive and is among the most respected political commentators of all time.
Sep 29, 2016 lmfaaooooo this is enough to stop responding to this guy for good Michael Savage isn't "among the most respected political commentators of all time", he's a guy who thinks autism is a scam and got fired for telling callers to get AIDS and die
Sep 29, 2016 Yet the editor-in-chief of Breitbart (a site you endorsed a few pages ago) described him as “approaching godlike status” in an interview with him this month. And it’s not hyperbole. This guy was invited to the Cambridge Union Society to debate on political correctness and freedom of speech in America and Britain, an honor given to a very select few including such high-profile speakers as Winston Churchill, Ronald Reagan, Theodore Roosevelt, Henry Kissinger. Moreover, his latest book is currently #2 on NY Times' bestseller list and #1 on Amazon and iTunes. Sure, the guy used to have a pretty bad temper and sometimes it got him in trouble, but the AIDS thing was what, 13 years ago? On SL you, in association with people like @M Solo, were one of the worst bullies I’ve ever seen, much more malicious than anything I’ve heard Savage say. How come that doesn’t hurt your credibility? On the other hand, Savage has kept his job in radio for 22 years. In fact, he was recently inducted into the National Radio Hall of Fame and has just renewed his show for another 10 years. And now you’re trying to turn this into an autism discussion because I nailed you to a cross in my last post. You have no argument and you know it. You have the nerve to attack @Red Rum for not responding when you’re the biggest cop-out artist I’ve ever seen.
Sep 29, 2016 oh my god stopped reading when he said I "endorsed Breitbart" laughable, racist site leaving this thread, life is too short to spend this much time arguing with a moron
