May 6, 2020

Winds might come one day lol. Ned + Ashara= Jon

 

May 7, 2020

It’s on my TBR list

 

May 10, 2020

What did everyone think of that last post? Agree or disagree?

The Weirwoods are the only god the faith of the 7 pray to. They are really a death cult...

 

May 19, 2020

Any request?

 

May 20, 2020

I’d like to report i take this stand back and shift my opinion to Rhonne Webber being the candidate

 

May 21, 2020

Cold Hands post next?!?!?!?!?!?

 

May 23, 2020

Who is Coldhands?
I want to remind everyone that this thread is dedicated to the books not the once upon a team legendary show till D&D (aka fuckboi and wench) f----- it all up.)

Now in the show Coldhands is Benjen Stark, this is the exact opposite in the books, and we have confirmation. How? Well from George himself:

There's a copy of the original manuscript for A Dance With Dragons, complete with notes from Martin's editors. The editor notes things such as “stop mentioning Davos’ finger bones) However it gives concrete first hand evidence that rules out Benjen Stark as Coldhands:

The editor scrawls a note to GRRM about Coldhands:

Is this Benjen? I think it's Benjen... And does Bran never recognize him because he never sees his face fully?

GRRM's reply, in red pen:

NO

There you have it from the man himself in one simple word, “NO”

So who is he? Some believe he is Waymar Rocyce the first character we meet in the entire series. Others think he truly is Benjen. Or is he the Night King? Remember in the books there is no “character” the Night King only a legend, a urban myth.

Now your probably saying, Shut up, no way. He’s Benjen that manuscript was before the show/the release of ADWD he could have changed his stance- no. These books are so thoroughly thought out that he spends years strategically planning.

Coldhands is the Night King! Now the questions is how? ADWD Bran 34:

Bran is currently in Bloodraven’s cave and is having a Weirwood vision in his sleep through Winterfell’s Heart tree he sees the following:


A) His young father praying with a bowed head "…let them grow up close as brothers, with only love between them, and let my lady wife find it in her heart to forgive." This is bran watching Ned pray to the gods that Rob and Jon will grow up close and Cat will hopefully stop being a b---- a--- wench. More proof as to why Jon is Neds….
A girl and a younger boy play fighting with branches. Most likely Lyanna and Benjen playing as kids
C) A pregnant woman coming out of the black pool praying for a son to avenge her. This is the most difficult to pinpoint. It could be the original Lord Starks wife and the tale of Bael the Bard coming to life. Or something else.
D) A slender girl on her toes kissing a knight as tall as Hodor. As I stated in my last post about Rhonne Webber being Old Nan (I will explain how and why soon). This is Rhonne kissing Duncan the Tall
E) A pale, dark-eyed youth cutting three branches from the weirwood and shaping them into arrows. This is Brandon Snow, half brother to king who knelt Torren Stark. Brandon was going to either k--- Aegon the conqueror/or the dragons.
F) Other lords of Winterfell: tall, hard, stern men in fur and chain mail; A bearded man forcing a captive down on his knees, and a white-haired woman killing the captive with a bronze sickle. **bing bing bing*** I think we have a winner. Now this part has multiple levels to dissect.
1) This can either just be the First Men performing blood sacrifice to the old gods (they didn’t worship the old gods when they first came to Westeros they adopted the old gods from the Children of the Forest) Notice how the blood sacrifice is in front of a Weirwood…. As I said the Weirwood is a death god.
2) This can be the lords and elite of Winterfell executing a poacher a (still doing death worship regardless) or it can be something more. Can this be a execution of a Brandon Stark?!?!?!?! Some people think its Bran the Builder but I doubt its him. As he is so known I think if he was executed we would know. Why am I specifically asking if this is a execution of a Brandon Stark. Let’s read the text real quickly:

“And now the lords Bran glimpsed were tall and hard, stern men in fur and chain mail. Some wore faces he remembered from the statues in the crypts, but they were gone before he could put a name to them. Then, as he watched, a bearded man forced a captive down onto his knees before the heart tree. A white-haired woman stepped through a drift of dark red leaves, a bronze sickle in her hand. "No," said Bran, "no, don't," but they could not hear him, no more than his father had. The woman grabbed the captive by the hair, hooked the sickle round his throat, and slashed. And through the mist of centuries the broken boy could only watch as the man's feet drummed against the earth . . . but as the life flowed out of him in a red tide, Brandon Stark could taste the blood.”

It says Brandon Stark could taste blood. Now is that our Brandon or the Brandon who just died? Or are they one of the same in some shape and form? I know this part has nothing to do with Coldhands but trust me this is how it all comes tied together. Old Nan firmly believes the Night King was a Brandon Stark and the Others feast on blood and remember the Night King was taken down by the other Lord Stark- his brother. So this could be Lord Stark executing his brother (only to become the Night King- the all white women is there too. In the legend he giver her his seed here we see it’s life’s blood- we need more evidence but I think it’s safe to say Martin hid the Coldhands story extremely well)

A few things to make note of, before we go any further, Chain Mail (many thought the first men didn’t have chain mail as they didn’t have steel or iron but they must have made it out of bronze), Bronze Sickle (this implies the timeframe this is happening most likely before the Andals as the they brought steel and iron with them, the first men used bronze. So this could be happening 6-8k years ago (Long Night anyone?)

Now when Bran first meets Coldhands, Coldhands says to Bran when asked who he is, “Your monster, Brandon Stark." This line is so subtle but so important as it completely ties Coldhands to the Night King and Bran’s role in the wars to come.

What do we know about Coldhands? He's a black brother - the Night's King was Lord Commander. According to Leaf, he died "long ago" The Night's King died 6-8,000 years ago.The children’s sense of time is different then mans so when the children say long ago they don’t mean a year or 2 (when Benjen would have gone missing. They mean centuries even thousands of years. Coldhands is said to be wearing chain mail armor under his cloak. Now this is often used against Coldhands being the Night's King, the logic being chain mail only came when the Andals came. But as you can see, in Bran's last vision he sees "tall and hard, stern men in fur and chain mail." I take this to mean that chain mail (made of bronze) existed before the Andals. Or he could have looted it from someone he killed (doubt it). It makes sense that Coldhands keeps his face covered, given that he had his neck gruesomely cut by a sickle.

The only “discrepancy” is the “giving the soul to an other”Again this is pure speculation but the blood sacrifice that happens is exactly that.

But why is he helping Bran? That is a question I cant even begin. Perhaps he is stuck as a wight and will walk the realm forever till the Great War is done? Only George has the answer to those questions, but I think we got another piece of the puzzle.

Coldhands, The Night King.

 

May 28, 2020

What does everyone think of that Coldhands theory? Any questions or specific topic anyone wants to discuss?

 

May 28, 2020

Do you still have hope that GRRM will release the Winds of Winter?

 

May 28, 2020

Yes. In my honest opinion I think he is almost done with Winds and ADOS. I think tying up Meereen while keeping the timeline on point with the rest of the characters and their plot lines was the cause of the hold up. I would imagine Winds comes out later this year or next. Followed by ADOS with only 2/3 year period in between.

I think he has finished most ASOIAF material overall. A lot of people don’t know this but a few major storylines never came into his mind till ACOK (Blackfyre Rebellion and all that comes with it) but in fire and blood we get some history on the Old King (Jahaerys) and Alysannes children without going into detail, (dance of dragons started with their children *cough cough even though its not till another generation or 2 later) but the timeline between of their children’s births are different from that in the World of Ice and Fire. He f----- up the timeline so he needed to rectify it some how.

He has spent years writing 1000’s of pages of fake history. It’s almost complete, and if he should die before they’re released we will get them in some shape and form.

Thoughts on Coldhands?

 

Jun 6, 2020

The children of Garth Greenhand or The Dance of Dragons? Or something else?

 

Jun 12, 2020

It’s times like these where its good to just get lost in Martin’s world. Without a further ado.

The Children of Garth Greenhand:

First who is Garth? Garth was the mythical high king of the First Men, whose children went on to find many of the great houses of the Reach. I will not spend anytime on Garth as a whole (lets save that for another time). I want to speak about his children (especially 2 of them)

A few of his children:

Garth the Gardener, ancestor of House Gardener
John the Oak, ancestor of House Oakheart
Gilbert of the Vines, ancestor of House Redwyne
Florys the Fox, ancestor of Houses Florent, Ball, and Peake
Maris the Maid, an ancestor of House Hightower
Foss the Archer, ancestor of House Fossoway
Brandon of the Bloody Blade
Owen Oakenshield, shield islands
Harlon the Hunter and Herndon of the Horn, ancestors of House Tarly
Bors the Breaker, ancestor of House Bulwer
Rose of Red Lake, ancestor of House Crane
Ellyn Ever Sweet, ancestor of House Beesbury
Rowan Gold-Tree, ancestor of House Rowan

Now who to talk about?Hmmm. Which one seems odd? Brandon of the bloody blade, where is his house? Poor Brandon didn’t find a house, however his son did…

It takes 2 to tango, so who was he banging? None other then Rose of Red Lake, ancestor to House Crane. So what’s the importance of these children? Well like the rest of Garth’s children they were blessed with a unique talent/skill. For example,

Gilbert of the Vines, taught the men of the Arbor how to make wine
Foss the Archer, use to s---t apples off maidens heads

You get it… But what makes these 2 special:

So what did Rose of Red Lake do?
According to legend she was able to skin change to a crane at any time, this power is still manifests itself with some women from house crane. But why Red Lake? And not something to do with Cranes? Let’s look at Brandon of the blood blade, He is credited to driving giants from the reach and warring with so many children of the forest at blue lake it was known as red lake thereafter. Red lake connection? Cranes are always found near lakes and other bodies of water… Rose helped defeat the COTF with Brandon of the bloody blade using her skin changing skills.

If you you want me to really get deep into it, let me know cuz this storyline is deep and significant. This is just a teaser… Brandon of the Bloody Blade and Rose of Red Lake are the original Florian and Jonquil/Azor Ahai & Nissa Nissa/The Just Maid.

Brandon is a name commonly used for the children of House Stark, Bran the builder is the son of Brandon of the Bloody Blade and Rose of red lake and founder of House stark. The current children of House stark are all skin changers (a power passed on by their ancestors) From a pure skinkchanging perception Arya has the strongest power (the power is strong in the women of house crane, house stark is related to house crane thanks to Rose and Brandon’s relationship) she is able to skin change into Nymeria who is in the Riverlands while she’s across the world in Bravos. Bran is more then a skin changer and clearly he is the best at controlling his power. Jon has a strong power as well but he has trouble controlling the power like Arya but is a incredible swordsmen like his ancestor Brandon)

The true meat of this is the connection between them as Florian & Jonqui/Azor Ahai & Nissa Nissa/Just Maid, Rose of Red Lake is the original mother of Dragons….

 

Jun 29, 2020

Been pretty quiet in here, mayhems people lose interest or the topics aren't that eye grabbing? So...

Ser Duncan the Tall? Or Duncan Blackfyre....

 

Jun 29, 2020

I tried to get into this show but its so unrealistic. and unfunny. good sex scenes tho tbh

 

Jun 30, 2020

The show is amazing (not including the last season) The books are on entirely different level. Read them trust me

 

Jun 30, 2020

I’m halfway through the first book now

 

Jun 30, 2020

I just finished me re-read of AGOT and am now in ACOK. so many things i still pick up on that i never saw before. Wait till you see my next post.. Jaw dropping s---

 

Jun 30, 2020

Ser Duncan the Tall Blackfyre: The secret baby

Duncan was conceived in the end of 193 (or first days of 194), when Daemon Blackfyre and Daenerys Targaryen attended tournament at King's Landing, that was held in honor of King Daeron's 40th birthday (Daeron was born in 153).

It was that tournament on which Ser Arlan of Pennytree defeated the b------ of Harrenhal and Lord Stokeworth. <- this is an important clue, because, I think, that the b------ was not a b------ of House Lothston, rather he was a secret son of Jeyne Lothston and Jeyne's own father - Aegon IV. Jeyne was a Stokeworth thru her mother, Falena Stokeworth, who was one of Aegon's mistresses. So, Ser Arlan, who later became Dunk's master, in that Tournament defeating those two people, is a hint about Dunk's dragonseed ancestry. And there are many other clues that connect Harrenhal to secret dragonseeds (including Brienne and children of Minisa Whent - Cat, Lysa, and Edmure Tully; and Petyr Baelish, who is a descendant of the b------ of Harrenhal, same as Tully-children. First Lord Whent of Harrenhal / Manfryd of the Black Hood / betrayer of Blackfyres / Manfryd legitimized as Lothston / Shella Whent's grandfather - this person is the b------ of Harrenhal, defeated on that tournament by Ser Arlan).

Usually tournaments are held because of some special occasion - Ned becoming the Hand, Tenth year anniversary of Jaehaerys I's coronation, Wedding Tourney at Duskendale, Wedding Tourney at Whitewalls, Tourney for King Viserys I's accession, Great tourney on the fifth anniversary of King Viserys I and Queen Alicent's marriage, Tourney at King's Landing for the wedding of Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen and Ser Laenor Velaryon, Princess Daenerys' wedding Tourney (in 187), Tenth year anniversary of Aerys II's coronation, Tournament in honor of Viserys's birth, Tourney in celebration of Balon Greyjoy's defeat, Tourney on Prince Joffrey's name day. Tournament on King Daeron's name day (Big 40).

Daeron was born on the last day of 153. So the tournament, which probably lasted several days, was held in the end of 193 and the beginning of 194, and that's when Dunk was conceived. Afterwards Daenerys went back to Dorne, and later she realised that she's pregnant, and, based on the timing, knew that the child was Daemon's. So, to hid her pregnancy from her husband, Maron Martell, she went to Water Gardens, and was living there until she gave birth to Dunk, and for some time after that. Dunk was born approximately in October-November of 194. Some time after he turned one year old, in late 195, Daenerys sent him to his father to Crownlands. He arrived there in early 196. It takes approximately 2-3 months to travel from Water Gardens to Crownlands. Whoever Daenerys sent to deliver little Dunk to his father, didn't brought him straight to Daemon's house/mansion/castle, because Daemon's wife, Rohanne of Tyrosh, was there, as were his children. Thus that person temporarily settled Dunk somewhere in Duskendale, and then contacted Daemon.

When Daemon found out about Dunk's existence, he went to his King-brother, and asked him something - either to allow Daenerys to divorce with Maron and to become Daemon's second wife, or to legitimize Dunk as a Blackfyre, or to be officially acknowledged as the child of Daemon and Daenerys, or a combination of those things. After he made this revelation to Daeron, some time passed, either minutes, or hours, or days, weeks, months, and then Daeron sent Kingsguards to arrest Daemon. Probably Daeron refused Daemon's request, and some time after that Daemon started to plan a rebellion. According to the World Book - Daemon's decision to claim the throne had been made rashly, and word soon reached Daeron's court that Daemon meant to declare within a month. Daemon was able to escape imprisonment with the aid of Quentyn Ball.

According to The Mystery Knight and The Sworn Sword Quentyn was killed by a common archer on the eve of the Battle at the Redgrass Field, when he stopped for a drink of water.

I think that shortly prior the decisive battle of the Rebellion, Daemon sent Quentyn to retrieve his son from Duskendale, and when Quentyn was transporting little Dunk, he got killed by an assassin. The person who killed him was:

- an assassin sent by Bloodraven;

- an assassin sent by Rohanne of Tyrosh;

- an assassin sent by Maron Martell;

- an assassin sent by King Daeron;

- one of Raventh Teeth;

- Bloodraven himself;

- other option.

The manner in which Dunk ended up at the Flea Bottom, depends on what were that person's intentions concerting Dunk, whether he intended to k--- Dunk too, or just to make Dunk disappear, or to take Dunk to whoever sent him, for the master to use the baby as a hostage against Daemon. With Dunk gone, there would have been no reason for a civil war between Dorne and the rest of 7K, and no reason for Daemon to continue his Rebellion (at least that's, probably, what thought those, who sent that assassin).

Either at the time when Quentyn was killed, Dunk was with him, or maybe Dunk was still at the safe-house. In case of first option, the assassin took Dunk to King's Landing, and left him at the Flea Bottom, this way giving him a chance to survive. If Dunk was at the safe-house, possibly it was in King's Landing, then, when for a long time no one came to retrieve the baby (with Quentyn killed, Daemon killed, Rohanne and her children and Bittersteel gone to Essos), those people, that were supposed to look over Dunk, did the same thing as Braavosi servants of Willem Darry - when he died, they threw Dany and Viserys out of the house, stole everything valuable from it, and left. Or maybe Dunk's caretakers were decent people, unlike Darry's servants, but when the money, provided by Quentyn/Daemon run out, they had no other choice, aside from leaving Dunk to fend for himself. Or, maybe, if the assassin's intentions were to k--- both Quentyn and Dunk, in case if Dunk was with Quentyn at the time of his death, then the assassin also tried to k--- Dunk, though failed. For example, when Quentyn got off his horse to drink some water, or to bring water for Dunk, he got shot by that archer, and his horse got spooked and ran, carrying Dunk away. Or the assassin took Dunk and dropped him into a river to k--- him. Though Dunk didn't drown, because he learned to swim even before he learned to walk - he was born and spent first year of his life at the Water Gardens with numerous swimming pools. If it was somewhere near King's Landing, then he was carried by a current to KL's area, and eventually ended up at the Flea Bottom, because that's where homeless orphans are residing. Or maybe the safe-house was at Duskendale, and that's where Dunk spent all that time since his arrival from Dorne, thru duration of the Blackfyre Rebellion (that lasted nearly a year), and maybe even some time after the Rebellion ended. He could have stayed there for as long as there were money for his caretakers to feed him, but when money were gone, they brought him to King's Landing, and left him at the Flea Bottom. And there are many other options.

What is common for all those possible options is that - 1. between the Water Gardens and the Flea Buttom, Dunk had spent extended period of time somewhere at Duskendale; 2. supposedly common archer, that killed Quentyn Ball, wasn't some random person, he was there specifically to k--- Quentyne; 3. whether Dunk was with Quentyn at the time of assassination, on in a safe-house at King's Landing, or in a safe-house at Dunskendale, Quentyn was responsible for Dunk's care. So with Quentyn dead, Dunk got lost, either intentionally or accidentally, and eventually ended up at the Flea Bottom.

At the time when Rebellion ended, near the end of 196, Dunk was 2 years old.

Either "dunk" is the way he was saying "Duskendale", and other kids thought that it was his own name, and started to call him that, and that's how he became Dunk, or there was some other story with "Dunk" at the centre of it.

For example, what if when Dunk got "lost", he had with him a letter/message, in it was written something about Dun Fort of Duskendale. Eventually some letters faded, or were erased, dissolved, when that letter got wet, or something like that, and what remained was - DUN Fort of DusKendale. Several years later (approximately in late 198 or early 199, when passed 2 years since Arlan's previous squire got killed at the Redgrass Field in the end of 196), when Ser Arlan met Dunk at the Flea Bottom, Dunk still had that letter, and based on that DUNK, that was all that remained in the letter, he named the kid Dunk. According to Dunk, he was 5 or 6 years old, when Ser Arlan found him, which makes range 192-194 as possible years of his birth. Though Dunk is taller than other people, thus at that time he could have been younger than 5 or 6, even though he looked old enough to be that age, actually he was approximately 4 years old at that time, not 5 or 6.

Also I think that when Arlan found him, Dunk had a chipped garnet (a red gemstone), that was a stone from a pommel of Blackfyre sword. His father, Daemon, gave it to him, while they were at Duskendale. After Arlan's death, Dunk found that garnet amongst Arlan's posessions.

The Hedge Knight - "He had piled the old man's things under an oak. The cloth purse contained three silver stags, nineteen copper pennies, and a chipped garnet; as with most hedge knights, the greatest part of his worldly wealth had been tied up in his horses and weapons."

The Mystery Knight - "We have twenty-two pennies, three stars, one stag, and that old chipped garnet, ser."

Or I could be wrong, and Dunk isn't bloodrelated to Blackfyres/Targaryens. But that's nearly impossible.

 

Jun 30, 2020

Who is your favorite character?