Oct 19, 2016

Chris Wallace was pretty easily the best of the 3 moderators, tbh I was more impressed by that than anything Trump or Hillary said.

 

Oct 19, 2016

I hope not lol. I want this election to be a landslide so that Dems can the White House and congress and so I can go to sleep at night knowing that Paul Ryan is some where curled in a ball crying.

 

Oct 19, 2016

According to the CNN instant poll, who won the debate?

52% - Clinton
39% Trump

Shout out to @Swizz

 

Oct 19, 2016

Who won this debate?

 

Oct 19, 2016

Clinton but not as clear as the first two. That's pretty much the general census.

 

Oct 20, 2016

Does this mean she will win the presidency?

 

Oct 20, 2016

that was a route by default. trump is totally, grossly inept.

nah cooper was much better

 

Oct 20, 2016

It seemed like none of the moderators knew how to properly console Trump, they all were unable to get him to stop talking after making it clear his time was up.

 

Oct 20, 2016

What a mess

 

Oct 20, 2016

Probably, yes. She was up by a lot in the polls before the debate and Trump really did nothing to close that gap. FiveThirtyEight currently has Clinton an 80%+ favorite to win the election.

 

Oct 20, 2016

There's really no doubt that Hillary wins now imo, I am a bit concerned about the backlash from Trump and his supporters when it happens though, I think some won't accept it especially with that voter fraud video that came out recently.

 

Oct 20, 2016

smh @ the media acting like people fully trust the election process even without Trump's comments

 

Oct 20, 2016

idk what yall were watching, Trump dominated that debate

 

Oct 20, 2016

Haven't watched a single debate. Couldn't care less what happens in November at this point

 

Oct 20, 2016

If you're a U.S citizen remember to vote.

 

Oct 20, 2016

Honestly don't get how anyone whether liberal or conservative or anywhere in between can't be disgusted by those 2 videos leaked yesterday. Like Trump's son said, if that involved Trump he'd have been run out of the country for it. It's 30 minutes showing long conversations with great details about how the DNC commits voter fraud and incites riots at Trump events. Yes I know a couple of the people involved have been fired, but obviously that would happen just to cover their a--- either way.

I definitely still think stuff like that goes on, probably on both sides but we only have proof of it on one side right now. It amazes me this basically gets dismissed yet people get absolutely pissed about Trump calling a woman fat..

So what am I missing here @Enigma or whoever? I'm not trying to get into a huge debate, but I just honestly don't get it. I'm not claiming to be very well informed on politics or anything, but how are these videos not a big deal? Here are the 2 videos if you haven't seen them, the 2nd one(voter fraud) is much worse imo. To me these are worse than anything Trump has said. I'd just like to hear the argument as to why I'm not supposed to care about these videos, all I've heard so far is it's 'conspiracy theory' type stuff(which is ridiculous cuz it's on video) or how people assume it goes on on both sides, which might be true but that doesn't make it anymore acceptable. Yeah I'm sure the videos are edited some, but it's still pretty d--- clear what they're talking about and what's going on.

 

Oct 21, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/

well for starters, CNN reported on this several days ago. Numerous major news networks have reported on this, it's not like it's getting ignored or brushed under the rug. It just got released at a time where the media is kind of in a frenzy trying to keep up with everything that's going on: Mosul, Trump, Clinton, senate races, polling etc. As for the videos themselves, do they look bad? Yes. I think the bigger question is are they credible? James O'Keefe, the guy who released these videos and his organization Project Veritas Action have been known to edit videos to mislead viewers and push their agenda. O'Keefe isn't unbias either, he's a well acknowledged conservative activist. He was paid $10,000 by the Trump Foundation back in May 2015 according to NBC News and refuses to release the unedited versions of the videos you posted (shocker). Not to mention, the guy is a convicted criminal and had to settle a $100,000 law suit with several ACORN enoplyees for releasing doctored videos that totally misinterpreted their actions. The videos do look bad so you can draw any judgement you want from them but if you were writing a college paper and you listed James O'Keefe or his organization as a valid source, your professor would probably throw your paper in the trash.

 

Oct 21, 2016

I know he's biased but the videos are pretty clear. Like I said obviously they're edited and maybe it's on both sides but it's still awful..

Also if you're saying this got anywhere near the attention some of Trumps comments got I definitely disagree.

Thanks for the explanation but I still feel the same way, still not sure how anyone can't be disgusted by that.

 

Oct 21, 2016

It's not just about bias, it's about credibility. This guy had to pay $100,000 to people because he put out doctoered footage of them that misinterpreted their actions. Him and his organization are known for doing this. That's not to say neither of what his videos are suggesting aren't possible. Could a couple DNC contractors gone rogue and tried to incite violence at trump events? Sure, that's possible. Do I think Hillary Clinton and top member of the DNC were in on it? No lol. Why would they need to be? Clinton's been leading in the polls nationally for a vast majority of the race. They are running against a candidates who says dumb s--- and shoots himself in the foot d--- near on a weekly basis. Why would they get involved with something as risky as that? They don't need to.

Could voter fraud happen? Yeah sure in theory. Except numerous studies, including one in 2014 have found very minimal voter fraud in the United States. The study in specifically 2014 found 31 credible incidents out one billion ballots, you can do the math on that lol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...ut-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?client=safari

 

Oct 21, 2016

@Kon, there isn’t even a question of voter fraud in this country. It's been going on for quite some time now, and it explains how Democrats have stayed in power so long.

Hillary’s campaign chairman was quoted in Wikileaks saying illegal immigrants can vote as long as they have a driver’s license. Wikileaks also revealed that Obama supports giving driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants, as does Hillary.

As for this guy James O'Keefe...



Savage very seldom has guests on his show. The only other guest he’s had that I can remember is Walid Shoebat, a Palestinian American scholar and former radicalized Muslim turned Christian. So for Savage, who’s one of the most cynical, educated people in the ‘underground media’, to have this guy James O'Keefe on his show inclines me to take him pretty seriously.

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