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  1. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Sep 17, 2016
    Travis (probably Mike Dean) did a good job sequencing this album and maintaining an aesthetic/vibe throughout. On paper, it's a much better listen front-to-back than Rodeo, which other than the stretch from Oh My Dis Side to Night Call is sequenced terribly. But Travis is so irredeemably boring 95% of the time that it doesn't matter. I've listened to this album probably five times and I don't remember a single line Travis said on this entire album besides 'stroke my cactus' and the part where he gives a nod to Day N Nite. I've never heard another album that's sequenced and maintains a sound this well that has such lackluster individual songs. It's actually kind of baffling to me. Even if Rodeo is a terrible listen front-to-back and Travis still isn't that interesting, the star-studded guest line up and the grandiose production makes each song feel like an event. How can you borrow this much from Kanye, Future, Young Thug, Rae Sremmurd (and h---, even Kid Cudi) and have nothing to show for it?

    21 Savage renegaded the whole album
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    I agree with pretty much all of this except for the part where you hold it against him.

    Like this is a really cohesive, enjoyable, well put together project and the only major negative to it is Travis. Yeah he has no quoteables, yeah he brings nothing new, but what he does just kinda works. Something about his voice and his flow just kinda fits and makes good songs , his music is good but its not because of him.

    I kinda think of travis albums the same way i think of DJ khaled albums, or Dj Esco albums
     
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  3. CallMeSas
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    CallMeSas

    Sep 17, 2016
    Only song Travis has a molecule of personality is on the second half of 90210
     
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  5. Chad Warden
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    Chad Warden As Ballin As Possible

    Sep 17, 2016
    Travis to me feels like a part of the instrumental, if that makes sense. He's not a spitter and to me, that's fine. Maybe I've been conditioned by the decline in quality or whatever, but I don't really care much about bars. I don't what it is, but that allows me to really enjoy Travis' music. It's atmospheric sonically and Travis blends in to it, almost to a fault. I would never argue with someone who just hates his music and what he represents, because I understand why people think the way they do.
     
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  6. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Sep 17, 2016
    ur last sentence pretty much says everything u need to no about BIRDS, When 21 renegades ur album thats a problem
     
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  7. Deadpool
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    Deadpool the end

    Sep 17, 2016
    Travis slander :rejoice:
     
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  8. Soldier
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Sep 17, 2016
    Mozes Rose going full r----- again
     
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  9. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    Sep 17, 2016
    Listening to a Travis Scott record 5 times all the way through with an open mind? You're a better man than I.
     
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    Deadpool the end

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    Kenneth slander :rejoice:
     
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  11. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Sep 17, 2016
    I get that 100%, I'm not a person who only values "bars" in rap. I can appreciate why someone would enjoy this for its atmosphere. The thing that bothers me about it is Travis tries so hard to be an 'artist' with his music but it doesn't feel like his art in any sense. The first time I really listened to Monster and enjoyed it a lot of what I was listening for was for the aesthetic, but even then before I was fluent in understanding Future's crooning it felt personal to Future himself. It felt like it was his. You get no sense of that with Travis, which is fine, but he tries to paint himself as something he's not.
     
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  12. Soldier
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Sep 17, 2016
    Get ready for the s--- storm. We talked about this before but I completely agree, Travis is so forgettable on this album and it is just flat out boring.

    You starting to come around to 21 now? Definitely took me some time but I'm a fan now.
     
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    Sep 17, 2016
    this is basically what i was trying to articulate in my first post :clap:
     
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  15. Packman
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    Packman

    Sep 17, 2016
    I think to enjoy this album or Travis Scott in general you have to get past what this post is 100% correct about
     
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  16. Jehovah
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    Jehovah SB3

    Sep 17, 2016
    I never know what he is talking about when I read his posts lmfao
     
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  17. Lil Squeed
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    Lil Squeed French Montana Stan

    Sep 17, 2016
    I hate how accurate this is
     
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  18. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Sep 17, 2016
    I never disliked 21 he just didn't grab my attention much. Love his verse on outside though.
     
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  19. RMK
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    Sep 17, 2016
    listened to it 1st time yesterday, rodeo grabbed me first listen, I have a hard time remembering what any of the tracks on birds sound like
     
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  20. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Sep 17, 2016
    21 legit just renegade this album by just having energy lmfaoo
     
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