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WTT: Kanye vs Jay Z

Started by Michael Myers, Jun 1, 2016, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Michael Myers
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Based on what I talked about with @Winter and @Poohdini this is an interesting topic. On each song, who had the best verse(s) in your opinion?


    01 No Church in the Wild (ft. Frank Ocean)
    02 Lift Off (ft. Beyoncé)
    03 n----s in Paris
    04 Otis (ft. Otis Redding)
    05 Gotta Have It
    06 New Day
    07 Prime Time
    08 Who Gon Stop Me
    09 Murder to Excellence
    10 Welcome to the Jungle
    11 Made In America (ft. Frank Ocean)
    12 Why I Love You (ft. Mr Hudson)

    Bonus tracks:

    13 Illest MFer Alive
    14 H*A*M
    15 That's My b----
    16 The Joy (ft. Curtis Mayfield)
     
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  2. Poohdini
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Gonna run through this at work in a bit.
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    the production > both
     
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  4. Winter
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Your tracklist is different to mine
    Just going from memory, I'll re-listen and update when I get home from work

    No Church In the Wild - Kanye
    Lift Off - Kanye but this one is kinda unfair since Jay isn't really on it
    n----s In Paris - Jay
    Otis - Kanye
    Gotta Have It - Jay
    New Day - Kanye
    That's My b---- - Kanye
    Who Gon Stop Me - Jay
    Murder To Excellence - Can't decide tbh
    Welcome To The Jungle - Jay
    Made In America - Jay
    Why I Love You - Jay but this one is also kinda unfair because Kanye doesn't really do anything on it
    Illest MFer Alive - Kanye
    H.A.M - Kanye
    Primetime - Kanye (I think?)
    The Joy - Kanye
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    been a minute since i heard this but Kanye's Murder To Excellence 2nd verse is the best on the album.

    "It's a war going on outside we ain't safe from
    I feel the pain of my city wherever I go
    314 soldiers died in Iraq,
    509 died in Chicago"
    :mjcry:
     
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  6. Michael Myers
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    Will relisten tonight as well. So far the only one I can see I disagree with is Illest MFer Alive, Jay killed that
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    I'll listen to it later. Good thread idea
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    I think they were pretty even on most songs...I wish Jay rapped this well on MCHG.
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    New Day is a tricky one. Kanyes verse is so deep but a couple of Jay's bars are deep too. Kinda equals it out.

    "Sorry junior, I already ruined ya

    Cause you ain’t even alive, paparazzi pursuin’ ya"
     
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  10. Winter
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Honestly, I said Kanye walked away with most songs in the other thread, but my favourite piece of rapping on the entire album is Jay's "Wassup MFer where my money at" verse in Gotta Have It
     
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    @Michael Myers your tracklist is different from mine bro.

    1. No Church in the Wild - Kanye
    2. Lift Off - Kanye - hardly any Jay
    3. n----s in Paris - Jay
    4. Otis - Kanye
    5. Gotta Have It - Kanye, but this was really close
    6. New Day - Jay, again this was really close
    7. That's My b---- - Kanye
    8. Welcome to the Jungle - Jay; Ye should've had a verse
    9. Who Gon Stop Me - Jay
    10. Murder to Excellence - Kanye on both parts
    11. Made in America - Jay, but another close one
    12. Why I Love You - Jay - hardly any Ye
    13. Illest MFer Alive - Kanye
    14. H·A·M - Jay
    15. Primetime - Kanye
    16. The Joy - Kanye, but he had 2 verses compared to 1 for Jay

    So if we cancel out the tracks where one was more prominent than the other, the tally is
    Kanye - 7
    Jay - 5

    Total
    Kanye - 9
    Jay - 7

    You factor production into it, and I stand by saying Kanye is the main reason WTT is so good.
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Kanye definitely out shined Jay on WTT. I'll have to give it another run down before I pick out who was better on individual songs.
     
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  14. Michael Myers
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    Jun 1, 2016
    Hmm I just googled this tracklist lol. Will listen after the match and try to pick one of them for each song
     
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    Is this supposed to be a joke?
     
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  16. Oldboy
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    Jay outrap kanye so hard
     
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  17. Michael Myers
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    Nah winter and poohdini were saying kanye was better on more tracks so I decided to see what the rest thinks. Not saying I completely disagree with them but I do think Jay rapped better on it than Ye
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    lol at jay z not winning

    - DP
     
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    ......wtf
     
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    Jun 1, 2016
    This is the last time Jay was genuinely great, and Kanye was at perhaps his most charismatic. They've got infectious chemistry and are both in fine form for totally different reasons. What a great, strangely underrated album.

    smh @ @Michael Myers having an incorrect tracklist!!
     
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