Eminem Best Posts: now that Drake sells more than Eminem

  1. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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    May 6, 2016
    i used to hate eminem but then somebody showed me his albums sales and now he's my favorite rapper oat
     
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  2. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    May 6, 2016
    still krazy gonna outsell adele
     
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  3. Red Rum
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    May 6, 2016
    Drake “Sold” 1.2M Copies Of Views Only Thanks To Old “Hotline Bling” Streams

    Last October, Drake’s “Hotline Bling” just missed topping the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart because of an unusual technicality: The viral clip was initially released exclusively on Apple Music, whose video-streaming data was not shared with Billboard. Now, Drake’s label, Republic Records, is relying on another unusual technicality to skew the numbers regarding the Toronto star’s new LP, Views — this time in Drake’s favo(u)r. Per Republic:

    The album, including digital tracks and streaming album equivalents, has crossed the 1 million mark in U.S. sales and nearly 1.2 million globally, and is expected to bow at #1 on the Billboard Top 200 in North America.

    OK so let’s break up that sentence real quick, because it includes two unrelated clauses that are cleverly fused to make it seem as though there is some correlation:

    1. The album, including digital tracks and streaming album equivalents, has crossed the 1 million mark in U.S. sales and nearly 1.2 million globally.

    2. [The album] is expected to bow at #1 on the Billboard Top 200 in North America.

    Let’s start with the latter of those two statements: Viewsprobably (maybe?) will debut at #1 on the Billboard Top 200, because Drake is a popular artist, because Views has been given a crazily elaborate and wildly expensive promotional push, and because the album’s chief competitor — Beyoncé’sLemonade — will inevitably drop off from its own first-week numbers of 653,000 equivalent album units. So, assuming Drake does manage to beat Bey, then congrats to Drake! Well done.

    Now let’s get to the bs.

    The only reason Views “has crossed the 1 million mark in U.S. sales and nearly 1.2 million globally” is because of the final song on the album; a late inclusion called “Hotline Bling.” As you might recall, back in February, the RIAA changed its certification methodology to account for “streaming and download consumption patterns.” Per the RIAA’s new rules, “1,500 on-demand audio and/or video song streams = 10 track sales = 1 album sale.”

    Initially, “Hotline Bling” was a loosie for Drake, but because it’s now included on Views, all those old streams are counted toward the album’s sales total. PerForbes:

    On just Spotify alone, recently released singles “One Dance” and “Pop Style” have amassed 67 million and 18 million global plays, respectively. UponViews’ release, any of those plays that occurred in the United States will apply not only to those songs’ qualifications towards RIAA digital single certifications, but towards the album certification as well. By the RIAA’s new methodology, that amounts to potentially tens of thousands of applicable and attributable sales the second Views drops, though notably it won’t factor into its placement onBillboard’s album charts.

    Furthermore, the inclusion of 2015 single “Hotline Bling” as a bonus track could sendViews’ RIAA numbers skyrocketing. With well over 400 million Spotify streams worldwide and close to 700 million official YouTube plays globally on Drake’s Vevo channel, this aging hit could be the infusion that sendsViews well on its way to multi-platinum status before year’s end.

    Got that? It’s not that the sales numbers being bandied about by Republic are technically inaccurate; it’s that the May 2016 numbers are artificially inflated by a song released in July 2015, which didn’t even become a hit until its video was released in October 2015.

    Wanna hear something funny? When “Summer Sixteen” was released this past January, some (reputable!) sources called it“the first single off Views From The 6.”

    But “Summer Sixteen” wasn’t included on the final Viewstracklist. So then … what wasthe “lead single” off Views? Let’s see what Wikipedia says…

    “Hotline Bling” is a song by Canadian rapper Drake, which serves as the lead single from his fourth studio albumViews. The song itself is only credited as a bonus track on Views, however the song is present on all editions of the album.

    Funny, right?

    Of course all this assumes Republic is using the RIAA’s formula for determining album sales. The company didn’t reveal its data’s source. It could be that they’re instead using the Nielsen formula for calculating album sales, which “equat[es] 10 digital track sales from an album to one equivalent album sale, and 1,500 song streams from an album to one equivalent album sale.” If that’s the case, then the numbers seem even weirder and arguably less impressive. Why? Because Views is a 20-track album, and (per MBW) “fans can’t un-bundle Views [when purchasing the album on iTunes], they only have the option to buy it as one package, with the exception of recent singles ‘One Dance’ and ‘Hotline Bling.'”

    So if Republic is using Nielsen’s formula, then Views really soldhalf as many copies as they’ve claimed, because Nielsen counts each 20-song copy of Views as two 10-song albums.

    Or there’s yet another option: It’s possible Republic is combining the Nielsen formula with the RIAA formula … in which case there’s absolutely no way of knowing how many people actually purchased or listened to Views.

    In any of these scenarios, though, the numbers being reported by Republic are wildly distorted.

    So yeah, maybe Views will debut at #1 on the Billboard Top 200, but the idea that it sold 1.2 million copies in its first week (coincidentally the same number as 1989!) while limited to Apple Music subscribers and iTunes downloads is laughable — and the fact that it’s being presented to the public in this way is pretty gross.

    And if it happens that Beyoncé’s numbers don’t fall off, and Drake once again fails to hit #1? Well that’ll make for some pretty sweet Lemonade … and a d--- sour Apple.
     
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  4. Nick
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    May 6, 2016
    The argument I would use Is that Eminem is better than drake
     
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  5. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 6, 2016
    I think you could argue that since a stream requires so much less investment than a purchase, that MMLP/GRODT/Carter 3 are still much more impressive first weeks.
     
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  6. Mano
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    May 6, 2016
    Eminem is still the best selling rapper this decade
     
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  7. Winter
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    May 6, 2016
    @ConspiracyGang gonna be in his element in this thread
     
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  8. Rebeliant
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    May 6, 2016
    yeah\
     
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  9. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 6, 2016
    Eh, I'd say the scales still swing in Drake's direction. All the streaming numbers (including retroactive numbers for Hotline Bling, right?) bolster it so much that it more than balances out the exclusivity. Also, anyone can buy it via itunes right? Don't have to be an Apple Music subscriber? And even for that there's a free trial. I dunno, I'm not trying to say it's not a lot of sales, but it's not staggering to me the way those three albums I mentioned were.

    Now if I were to argue against myself, the industry's sales numbers are so depressed across the board that you probably have to adjust for that.
     
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  10. Oldboy
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    May 6, 2016
    the f--- kinda argument we can come up with to defend Em now? he isnt the best selling rapper anymore
     
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