SectionEighty - Greatest Hip-Hop Albums Knockout Tournament (FINISHED)

Started by Ordinary Joel, Apr 10, 2015, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 14, 2015
    i don't know about that. i'm a huge it was written supporter and i've brought up issues with gkmc, but the latter is still a classic. each record is deserving, honestly. on the other hand, aquemini is an all-time masterpiece and the eminem show is a vaguely embarrassing melodrama.
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Apr 14, 2015
    Not that farfetched tbh, although for comparisons sake Aquemini is levels above TES.
     
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    Apr 14, 2015
    Gave you power anf the messege better than anything on GKMC. its a good album but i dont even listen to it anymore i don
     
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  4. Peter Parker
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    Apr 14, 2015
    Tell me about it lol

    Yeah I agree with you on that, I wasn't dismissing Cole in my post. FHD is definitely an improvement from BS which was mediocre and very underwhelming (I haven't listened to Sideline Story, and it's been a long time since I listened to earlier stuff). Imo it's a decent album that pleased his (big) fanbase, and def a step in the right direction.

    What I'm thinking is: you can't guess that the x/100 rappers that focus on different things than Cole for example (who sometimes fails to deliver even by his standards, right) aren't trying or don't care about their music. Music doesn't have to have a deeper meaning or huge doses of introspection to be good, and basically everything can potentially work and make an album appealing: the writing, the atmosphere, the artist's charisma, the production, combinations of them, etc etc, a standard formula doesn't exist. Having said that, we can't know how much effort they put in, and it doesn't really matter to me anyway, it's the music that matters. As you said, Cole tried too hard with BS and failed, how is he better than someone who f---s around and "doesn't try", if he can produce better music? And how is he different than someone who's making shallow or ignorant songs, if they both sound generic?

    TES still being here is a joke, but many great albums have been kicked so far so who cares, s--- happens
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Apr 14, 2015
    Great post mate, yea at the end of the day every rap artist has their own form of subject matter/content whatever you wanna call it lol and can be enjoyed accordingly. I think it's simply essential to at least recognize the flaws & strengths of artists you gravitate to, opinions are one thing but it's clear that there are differences in being better or worse.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Apr 14, 2015
    yes, and j. cole is clearly worse than a huge portion of today's major rappers
     
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

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    I ain't mad at that :idk: I find his music compelling and personally I think he has some merits as an artist but Cole's yet to fully back up the hype and suggested promise that normally was expected earlier in his career.
     
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    FNL is still his best project imo
     
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    (64) 2Pac - Me Against the World Vs. (57) Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

    (34) Eminem - The Eminem Show Vs. (23) Outkast - Aquemini

    (3) Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city Vs. (22) Eminem - The Slim Shady LP

    (20) Nas - Illmatic Vs. (60) Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
     
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  10. Ordinary Joel
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    Ordinary Joel Happiness begins when selfishness ends

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    Sorry guys for not putting up the semi-final yesterday. As it stands we have a tie for points for one of the match-ups. I just need one more voter to post their preferences before we proceed.
     
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  11. Ordinary Joel
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    @Koolo, I see you haven't voted yet. Wanna vote? I need one more voter to break a deadlock for one of the match-ups.
     
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    (64) 2Pac - Me Against the World Vs. (57) Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

    (34) Eminem - The Eminem Show Vs. (23) Outkast - Aquemini

    (3) Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city Vs. (22) Eminem - The Slim Shady LP

    (20) Nas - Illmatic Vs. (60) Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)

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    Ordinary Joel Happiness begins when selfishness ends

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    RESULTS
    Quarterfinals
    (64) 2Pac - Me Against the World Vs. (57) Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (14-15, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy advances)

    (34) Eminem - The Eminem Show Vs. (23) Outkast - Aquemini (13-16, Aquemini advances)

    (3) Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city Vs. (22) Eminem - The Slim Shady LP (22-7, good kid, m.A.A.d city advances)

    (20) Nas - Illmatic Vs. (60) Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (20-9, Illmatic advances)
     
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  14. Ordinary Joel
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    Ordinary Joel Happiness begins when selfishness ends

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    2Pac - Me Against the World
    Eminem - The Eminem Show
    Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
    Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
     
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    Semifinals (Final Four)
    *To vote, just leave your preferred album picture*
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    (23rd Seed)[​IMG] Vs. [​IMG] (3rd Seed)
     
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    MBDTF, GKMC
     
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    Juney Dark Art Deco Killer Mango

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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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