Who Took The Biggest L In Hip Hop?

Started by Robot, Feb 5, 2015, in Music Add to Reading List

Who lost the biggest in hip hop?

  1. Eminem

  2. Snoop Dogg

  3. Dr. Dre

  4. Lil Wayne

  5. Other

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  1. Suburban Scum
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    Suburban Scum Annihilator

    Feb 6, 2015
    True just don't see him making anything good as what hes done before in terms of quality hes gotten worse and I was actually a big fan at one point
     
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  2. CODEiNE DEMON
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    CODEiNE DEMON One foot stuck in the tarpit of my ways

    Feb 6, 2015
    He's said ever since he quit working with Emile and Plain Pat that he's just been dicking around and experimenting but he's linked up with Emile and Pat for MOTM 3 so I have high hopes
     
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  3. Mikey
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    Feb 6, 2015
    Check out MOTM3 when its out. Emile & Plain Pat will put Cudi on the right path again.
     
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  4. DJ Lithium
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    Feb 6, 2015
    Being murdered is a w for you?
     
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  5. CODEiNE DEMON
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    CODEiNE DEMON One foot stuck in the tarpit of my ways

    Feb 6, 2015
    Yeah. If I was an above average rapper and then died when I was 20 something and went on to be remembered as a legend, I'd consider that a win.
     
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  6. Lamont
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    Feb 6, 2015
    2pac and big were not just above average rappers... what a myth. yes they gained a stupid amount of popularity post death, but they were both great rappers when they were alive, both released tons of great material.
     
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    CODEiNE DEMON One foot stuck in the tarpit of my ways

    Feb 6, 2015
    "Tons"
    Big and Pac were both awesome, but weren't half as good as they got made out to be. They'd be on the level of Nas ( respected by all but only still listened to by dustheads) at best of they were still alive.
     
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  8. game time67
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    Dying at the age of 25 as opposed to living a full life worth millions and still loved by millions... Yeah I wouldn't say him dying was a win at all.
     
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  9. Lamont
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    Nah, they got rated that high for a reason. They are both responsible for a lot of great music. You can also make an argument that the game would be different now if Pac and Big were both alive. Remember Jay and Nas were both arguably below Pac and Big when they were all coming up the 90s.

    At the end of the day it's all hypothetical so we can only rate Pac and Big on what they did and not what WOULD happen. Maybe Pac would be irrelevant, maybe not.
     
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  10. CODEiNE DEMON
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    CODEiNE DEMON One foot stuck in the tarpit of my ways

    Feb 6, 2015
    Regardless, they're both revered as gods of rap. No one living is considered that. Big and Pac are considered that out of respect for the dead.

    "I'm here for a good time, not a long time" -Drake

    I could die tomorrow and wouldn't consider it an L. If I died at the age of 25 as a successful and talented rap star with a huge fanbase I would actually be even more happy. Go out while you're in your prime instead of fading into irrelevance and depression.
     
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  11. Fire Squad
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    Fire Squad Boss Don Biggavel

    Feb 6, 2015
    I'm a huge stan of Biggie but it's true that his tragic early death greatly helped his "legacy" and popularity. However in the time he was alive he blessed us with two classic albums; Ready To Die is phenomenal and Life After Death is possibly the best double-album in hip-hop imo.
     
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  12. M Solo
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    Nah I remember those times vividly and I'd say him and Jay-z were equally popular. When I was like 7th grade(98) "Can I Get A...." was ALL OVER the place. Then in December of 1999 I can remember when And Then There Was X and Volume 3 dropping like a week apart. Lol I remember having my parents pick those albums up for me while I was at school. Man I miss those days.
     
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  13. Mikey
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    Pac would have released multiple more classic albums imo. He was one of a kind. A truly inspirational man & very intelligent.
     
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  14. grizzyp
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    Tupac, Biggie, Big L....3 of the greatest killed in their primes from senseless violence. They took some pretty big L's.
     
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  15. Tha Story
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    Charles Hamilton when he got punched by that chick.

    Ja Rule's line about Haley/Kim >> anything Em or 50 said in that beef. Only reason they come out on top was because they were more popular at the time and had the siding of the fans.
     
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  16. Peter Parker
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    Feb 7, 2015
    I believe that he could have delivered a better album than 7DT if he hadn't died and managed to start his own label. 7DT is the only album of his that I'd call a classic though, his music was passionate and some messages remain relevant nowadays, but his records weren't perfect. I do agree that he was intelligent, and generally, much more than just a rapper, that would probably remain relevant even if he stopped making music. He'd make his voice heard by doing other things.

    Biggie would also stay active and popular in the game for a long time, probably. He showed his skills and versatility with songs like Hypnotize and N***** Bleed, he could do everything, and did it well. I could see him adjusting to the new trends in rap, or even help re-shaping the scene. And ofc Ready To Die is arguably a classic.

    Even if you don't consider the impact of their deaths (which is insignificant if you're not living in the states), their discography places them among the best to ever do it (top 15-20 for me for me, or something like that), and they were around for like 5 years.
     
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    When b---- a--- Lil B got 2 pieced by Nino...haha...n----- needs to relocate out the bay with that s---
     
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  18. Fitz
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    Feb 7, 2015
    This is true

    Can I Get A, Hard Knock Life and Money Ain't a Thing were HUGE.

    I remember it was a huge deal when Jay had DMX on Money Cash Hoes too lol.

    IDK, they were pretty close, but I think pre-Eminem, DMX was bigger than Jay... Maybe not by a lot, but I think he was a little bit more popular.

    Like, DMX was more about shock value. I remember people going ape s--- about him on Flesh of my Flesh with 'There's blood on my d-ck cuz I f----- a corpse"

    Then Eminem came along and pretty much killed his shock value.

    Anyways

    I loved buying tapes, because they were like 2-3 dollars each...

    I used to love when you bought a tape and you would get the promotional covers from all the releases from the record label too...

    Nothing was leaked back then, you had to wait, and you'd anticipate seeing the music videos played on BET/MTV.

    I RARELY was disappointed with an album.

    Yeah, I was in 6th grade in 1996... From 1996 to 2000, the music scene was SO fun. Napster killed it though... I mean, when it came out, I thought Napster was f---ing great because it was free music... But, looking back, it completely killed it...

    My 8th grade year was f---ing fire though... 98/99 was just crazy... I won't name off all the great albums from that year, but I can remember having like 15 tapes that I just rotated on CONSTANT repeat while playing Zelda, Mario Kart and Golden Eye lol.

    People who didn't experience being a fan back then won't understand how satisfying music was. Musicians were larger than life to you. You didn't have reality TV shows (Road Rules/Real World was it) and social media shoving them down your throats...
     
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  19. lil uzi vert stan
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    Speaking of Pac:
    GTFOH
    http://www.bostonglobe.com/business...e-and-tupac/zDMdzlvoUBMkzXExIDuX3N/story.html

    If you ever see a car roll up to the WGBH studios with the windows down, bass cranked, and speakers blaring “All Eyez on Me,” you’ll need only one guess about who’s behind the wheel: Jim Braude.

    The 65-year-old former union head, tax activist, and city councilor — he took over as host of “Greater Boston” this week — might not strike viewers as the hip-hop type. But long before he got into public broadcasting, Braude used to baby-sit the late rapperTupac Shakur.

    This was in the mid-1970s, when Braude, fresh out ofNew York University Law School, was a young attorney working as a housing and prisoners-rights advocate at a legal services office in the South Bronx. One of the paralegals in the office was Afeni Shakur, an active member of the Black Panther Partyand, it turned out, the mother of a preschooler who grew up to sell 75 million records.

    “When Afeni and some of her Black Panthers who worked in the office — who were fabulous advocates and paralegals, by the way — said they were going out to do some community organizing, on more than one occasion she said, ‘Take care of the kid,’ ” Braude recalled.
     
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