Mar 31, 2015 I was all for Kevin Gates and Aesop making the list, but at the end of the day nobody is going to have the same list and I don't think they were as familiar with them as other projects. Also agree with GKMC being superior to Pinata despite being a huge Gibbs fan. Glad we see eye to eye on some things. @WPG
Mar 31, 2015 @Skippy I'm very familiar with both versions of Owl Pharoah. I like the original version better. The manager thing comes into play but it's also how he presents himself on social media and in interviews.
Mar 31, 2015 Eh, as far as the personality thing goes I don't really feel either way, I just think the manager part is bs. And I dunno I love both incarnations if OP equally. Also, I said this to wpg as well, but I don't want yall to think I'm just being a Stan rn, I just legitimately hear these critisicms all the time and don't really get them, other than the obv Cudi influences
Mar 31, 2015 really n-----, you can make an argument for either project and you'd be right. you're talking about 2 albums with roughly the same score.
Mar 31, 2015 And I was wondering what Charlie works reasoning would be because he said he's a huge Gibbs fan
Mar 31, 2015 i definitely agree with Pinata being better than GKMC. GKMC has been overrated a little bit as far as being a "flawless classic". There are quite a few songs on there that have to be considered flaws. a few songs are pretty bad including Real, Compton or good kid. the rest of the songs are great obviously but I've never been into Poetic Justice that much or Sing About Me I’m Dying of Thirst. Not to say they are bad songs they just aren't my cup of tea. the rest of the album is ATG stuff. on the other hand Pinata is pretty much flawless imo each and every song is objectively good. they're both high quality albums though and there probably isn't much seperating them. I just find myself revisiting Pinata more than GKMC. GKMC is nice if I have time to listen to the whole thing, it's obviously dope conceptually but it's lost some of it's shine for me
Mar 31, 2015 Pinata is a dope record, but I honestly listen to Gibbs' mixtape material a lot more. Pinata kind of focused on a single style when my favorite thing about Gibbs is his diversity. Houston, Chicago, Atl, West Coast Gangster, G Funk... The guy is a chimera. His work with Madlib is his most polished and focused, but I would also call it his most restrained. It accomplished what it was supposed to. Also, a lot of people who like it tend to imply Gibbs takes a backseat to Madlib on it which irks me. Feels like some of the praise is false and primed by Madlib's involvement. Like they don't actually get it. That's a problem with the critics though.
Mar 31, 2015 Oh and I don't keep track of Travis on social media but what do you mean by interviews, because for the most part everything he's said on interviews I agree with. Like how a lot of older rap artists are given disproportionately more praise than newer artists who do just as well if not better, or how Houston rap is basically either n----s doing the same old chopped and screwed s--- or n----s who completely dickride the ATL scene with no originality whatsoever, or how guys like Ye and Cudi and Drake are gonna go down as legends, or how dope Travis' music is, because that's all I've ever heard him talk about. That and his rise to fame
Mar 31, 2015 yeah im coming from a place of not being nearly as deep into gibbs's work as you so my love for pinata is removed from any bias for his previous material i think does show diversity on pinata tho -- that was actually one of the first takeways i had from the album...that he could do a record like harold, and shitsville, robes, on the same album dude really is so versatile..his verse on old english with thugger and ferg >>
Mar 31, 2015 It's a different kind of diversity than topically or just flow wise. Like Menace II Society vs. Natural High vs. Purple vs. Lay It Down vs. How We Do... None of those sound the same. Imagine being a Danny fan and he does only low or high voice for the whole album. It just wouldn't be as fulfilling.
Mar 31, 2015 Gotcha. basically, as a fan of Gibbs, you think Madlib kind of painted him into a corner sonically (even though you understand that's part of why so many people see this as his most focused/cohesive project to date)
Mar 31, 2015 That's probably on par with Pinata for me also @Narsh get Lord Giveth Lord Taketh away EP by Gibbs, statik selektah production on it
