Eminem No Apologies (Jeff Bass involvement debate)

Started by Godlys, Dec 17, 2025, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Spatula
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    Dec 21, 2025
    He doesnt want it out. He often recycles ideas that didnt make it originally. We are sabotaging his artistic expression.
     
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    Well he'd be an incel burger cook in 2025 if it wasn't for all of us so I think he can get over it lol.
     
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  3. Godlys
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    Stop being such a big, wussy crybaby. Pretty much all the stuff and lines he reuses is post-h--- the sequel and he won’t just base the whole s--- around the recycled song unless its relapse (which he only did twice and made them worse outside of a more developed beat). Antichrist is quite literally the only song he spent years and years working on and it got released, so how would we ruin his expression?
     
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    This you @Spatula? LOL

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    Every time Spatchy posts I envision it’s the big fat guy who fixes Woody in Toy Story 2 with his Cheeto fingers sat a computer desk.
     
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    I tend to picture Dwight Schrute from The Office. I'm only familiar with him through memes since I've never seen the show, but his character description seems to fit as well as his appearance. Just replace Michael Scott with Eminem:

    I guess he figures if he kisses Eminem's a--- long enough he eventually might land his dream job as a merch design artist for Shady Records, presumably making T-shirts depicting the spatula line in Bagpipes from Bagdad. The number of rough sketches he's made of Eminem bending over bare-assed must be in the thousands now.
     
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    I’ve known of Spat’s existence for two days, but I can already tell that’s the perfect description. Maybe looks more like the first guy in this animaniacs skit though
     
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 4:04 PM
    since i left you guys are misinformed a lot and seem confused. let me clear it up for ya.

    let's take it back to how jeff and em stopped working.

    here's all award acceptence speeches of eminem.



    what you will notice is he never ever mention jeff bass or fbt for once. he always thanks to dr. dre, interscope records, d12 and fans. it is also f---ing wierd when he won mtv vma best music video award for "without me", he said "thanks to my production team: steve and luis".

    anyway, jeff got upset about this situation and had some chance to talk about this with jimmy iovine. jimmy told him that he produced songs and albums for bruce springston, john lennon, tom patty and u2 but he never got thanked for once by them so he tells him not to get upset about this.

    this was the first breaking point between Em and Jeff Bass.

    second breaking point was both of them got into a bad drug addiction after 2002 and had real health and family issiues. so i guess they were both offensive, depressed and unbalanced.

    third breaking point was streaming got popular and cd sales were going to history slowly. jeff bass's web entertaintment had 8 full lenght album deal with eminem and they had %50 of the physical copy sales. interscope didnt pay web entertaintment %50 for streams and they started to discuss about it. Em told Jeff he has nothing to do with it and he dont want to get involved with this kind of problem. At the end Web entertaintment had to sue interscope and they won, so interscope got forced to pay their rights.

    after this last breaking point Em stopped working with Jeff Bass. He told him that he want to work with new producers and jeff said "ok". But i guess it was interscope and jimmy iovine. Also they had a few more break points before the last one. So it was done.

    First Eminem album without Jeff Bass and DJ Head (who was resposible with drum programming) was Em's first failure after his 3 great album run. Production was too Midi, drums were not sounding organic (sounds like made by fruity loops), Em was on drugs heavily, Dr Dre came up with outdated productions (becuz he also changed his previous team scott, mel-man, camara with mark and dawaun). Jeff Bass always coming up with acoustic, organic sounds with live guitar, live bass and organic midi keyboards. Dj Head was using sp1200 for drum programming to give old school vibe to Eminem songs. These were defining the Eminem sound for the last 3 previous albums. They were making the entire album and dr.dre were coming up with 3 or 4 radio friendly songs which ends up to be album singles to take Eminem to top of the charts and to the awards. Eminem lost his own signature sound by losing jeff and dj head. Dr. Dre was also lost those days, trying to make detox but he was never satisfied.

    After encore, em's drug addiction got heavier. you guys know the story which he got overdose and almost were about to die. When he got started to get medication he connects with Jeff Bass again somehow and they end up their parting. Thats when they did songs like gatman and robin" (50 cent), "drama setter" (tony yayo), "trapped" (proof), "lord have mercy" (lil scrappy), "peep show" (50 cent), "touch down" (ti), "lose my mind" (young buck), "lac motion" (cashiss), "crazy" (trick trick).... and the last one was.... yeah "beautiful".

    after Relapse, eminem realised that himself and dr. dre doesnt work together anymore and both of their production style doesnt match to current music those days. So he really wanted to do something different and wanted to work with new producers. Even almost "no dre".

    I dont know why and how Em and Jeff stopped their relationship again but as far as i know after they did "beautiful" they never ever keep in touch again till this day. Jeff Bass was invited to Eminem rock n roll hall of fame induction in 2002 and he attented to it but Em and Jeff didnt get together or talked to each other that day.

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS75Drze_Ifg4T-x3Ns6gotd-tF_-YNVLMtFA&s

    when it comes to "no apologies"... jeff has nothing to do with it. steve king and luis resto did that.

    any questions?
     
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  9. Big Monkey
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 4:33 PM
    Yeah whatever happened to that Jeff Bass reunion album?

    Preciatcha boss.
     
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 4:56 PM
    @CeyCey I can't remember but I thought Jeff/Mark Bass were in fact at Em's Rock&Roll Hall Of Fame Induction... I know for sure that Jake Bass (Jeff's son) was there because he posted a bunch about it on social media. Too bad Em doesn't work with 'em anymore.. I'm forever holding out some sort of hope that somewhere down the line they'll reconnect (terrible example but like how Nas and DJ Premier put out that recent project) cheah
     
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  11. CeyCey
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 5:23 PM
    i had the info that jeff was going to be credited for a song on "death of slim shady" before it came out. so that made me think there will be a song that he will be involved in "really". butt it ended up as sampling credits for "houdini" because of "guess who's back" line from "without me".

    i never claimed there will be a jeff bass reunion album but jeff's son jake posted "lets do slim shady lp 2" by mentioning eminem back in the day but it is just a fantasy.
     
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  12. CeyCey
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 5:25 PM
    yeah they were there. i posted the photo. check my previous post.

    next Kuniva & Swift (d12) album will be produced by Jake Bass and Jeff Bass. hold on to that at least.
     
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    Dec 28, 2025 at 5:34 PM
    Oh. Good thing then I didn't bother to ask you how you knew.
     
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    Dec 29, 2025 at 5:04 AM
    Do you think “Never Forget Ya” from Cheers was from the TES era?

    I also find it kinda weird that Jeff didn’t really appear on the 8 Mile soundtrack, which was created during and post-TES (except Lose Yourself which was made earlier), yet Em, Jeff, Luis Resto and King still made a full album worth of material in 02/03 for King Gordy.
     
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    There's only so much one can take
     
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    @Godlys is a Zeb alt
     
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    Ever thought about applying for the MI5 special detective unit Foot?
     
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    Told u Zeb


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