Jan 22, 2016

Idiot

 

Jan 22, 2016

You're a great person.

 

Jan 22, 2016

and ay another thing to consider is that since 1995 like 13% of Oscar winners have been black and they are only 12% of the population but f--- Chad Warden right

also the Oscars are a hollywood elite pat on the back night, and Idris' movie wasn't high budget so wasn't tied with the "elite" as much, if you get me

it was a medium budget movie

 

Jan 22, 2016

first off, im not actually accusing the academy of being racist. thats an easy crutch and i apologize if i used it. im accusing them of inadvertent racial bias.

i know plenty about the academy, i follow this stuff pretty closely. giving them the benefit of the doubt, like you are, without actual knowledge or insight into their practices is whats unfair, respectively. You are also being very reductive. Yes, exceptions like Wallis exist. But is there still an overall pattern? Absolutely. Denying that is simply obtuse. I don't even understand your question about Selma lol. I've already said: Hollywood generally likes black stories told a certain way: acknowledging a black female director (which would've been a FIRST) tell the story of MLK was just too much for them. Nevermind Ava DuVernay was nominated at the Critics Chocie and the Globes. in short, im right there's rly no way around it. join me and ull live forever

and bro, you take girls on dates to excruciatingly long/bad obie trice concerts in 2016. pardon me to think you arent the most progressive fellow!!!!! lol

 

Jan 22, 2016

the population: roles/awards theory is dumb. there has been progress over the years, yes. and yes, there's a variety of reasons why a movie was snubbed. Elba had two SAG nods and a globe nod. SAG is the same body of people as the Oscars so dunno what happened there -- part of it was the Netflix thing. again: it's not some evil plot to ignore black contributions. but is there a tendency to overlook them? yes.

like f--- guys think about Malcolm X. pretty great biopic imo. Think about all the god awful biopic epics the academy nominates every year. the theories of everything, the imitations games. how many oscar nominations do you think Malcolm X received?

Spoiler

2, including one for denzel, who CLEARLY shouldve won that year but didnt

 

Jan 22, 2016

Never saw either of those other movies, but they're well liked by critics and non-critics....it's not like they nominated Bucky Larson: Born To Be A Star. Agree with the rest of what you said though.

 

Jan 22, 2016

still waiting on @Perry The Platypus to explain to me how not liking a rap album and thinking the academy has a bit of a racial bias are at odds with one another :"(

 

Jan 22, 2016

Ok, first of all, for the love of God, please stop throwing Obie Trice under the bus! Not to mention, it was her idea to go! I didn't even know he was coming to town!

Regardless, Chad brings up an interesting point. If 13% awards given are for African-Americans, and they make up roughly about that percent of the population, I'd argue that that sort of puts a dent in your argument.

I'm reading the article you linked, and although I agree with some parts, I totally disagree with others. I agree that trending stars like Jennifer Lawrence grab much more attention than they deserve, and that they didn't nominate Compton because it doesn't fall into the category of stereotypical Oscar film, but I can't make that leap into racial bias.

And this thing you just said about Wallis proves that people arguing what you're arguing will never be satisfied, that's because you're putting the burden of proof on me when it should really be on you. Anything I say you can write off an an exception.

And I never saw The Theory of Everything, but how can you say The Imitation Game isn't good? wtf.

And @WPG I'm really not in the mood to argue with you so please just figure it out on your own

 

Jan 22, 2016

you've realized you don't have an argument? tight.

"YOU CAN'T SAY THE OSCARS HAVE ANY RACIAL BIAS IF YOU DON'T LIKE ONE OF KENDRICK LAMAR'S RECORDS"

 

Jan 22, 2016

@Perry The Platypus you read the article so you know since the academy pushed up its awards date, audience opinion has been marginalized, exacerbating a trend known as the "oscar movie" -- a very formulaic brand of movie. imitations game feels like a parody of the oscar movie, like it was stitched together by harvey weinstein. brilliant marketing, bad movie.

the rest of what you're saying literally makes no sense. including the bit about your chick suggesting you BOTH GO SEE OBIE TRICE. wtfffff

 

Jan 22, 2016

I thought Beasts of No Nation would get a few nods at least. Abraham Attah as Agu was one of the best performances i've seen from a little ting. Idris also killed it, but above all the shots were beautiful, amazing colour contrast, and perspectives. Cary Fukunaga's camera work is on another level won't be soon before he gets one for cinematography.

 

Jan 22, 2016

i win: http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/mov...s-diversify/yCjSOcRPYvFAqvmlMWx9QL/story.html

here's the thing, my little puppets. more recognition from the academy, means bigger and more powerful "diverse" stars... which means they can produce their own films, or at least join higher profile projects... which means movies/tv will be better represented, and actually tell different (and presumably better) sorts of stories. (at least, that's my thinking.) this is a good thing, trickle down jack kemp style.

and, i dont have the numbers, but it seems to me most "black" themed projects are generally profitable. not just denzel and will, but the tyler perrys and cube vision... malcolm lees of the world. this will contribute to a world where ryan coogler and michael b jordan make he studio $$$ then can use that leverage.

we all win

 

Jan 22, 2016

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-oscar-whiteness-machine

 

Jan 24, 2016

The type of roles that black people actually do get nominated for are just as problematic as the ones that don't. As David Oyelowo pointed out last year, the Academy has a tendency to ignore subversive black roles in favor of subservient ones that show white people helping, saving, or holding them back in some way. Those that have broken this trend over the last fifteen years are few and far between, and they are often suspect nominations to established stars. Wallis, Whitaker, Davis... they're anomalies.

Has there ever been a worse case of this than with Leo this year? You'd think nobody else was nominated the way people are talking about him. Pulling for Fassbender all the way.

 

Jan 24, 2016

actually kind of shocked that See You Again is not nominated for best original song

 

Jan 26, 2016

Really hoping this gets the praise it deserves

 

Jan 26, 2016

Thinking of following the Oscars on tv this time, is it ever worth seeing the whole thing?

 

Jan 26, 2016

Not a strong year btw.