Jan 14, 2016

so?

@Twan yeah -- it just irks me when, say, The Danish Girl gets two nominations (or, one... if you pretend that's a furtive ex machina nod ha). same last year with theory of everything and imitation game. we need to PAUSE the white male heroes in crisis narrative. and as you say, not asking them to emrbace TANGERINE... but christ, Oprah produced Selma...

 

Jan 14, 2016

Cause life is too short and on my death bed, I know I'd regret the two hours lost to Oscar bait with a poor man's HBO aesthetic.

 

Jan 14, 2016

Ok so there's no real reason I can't waste my time then, dope

 

Jan 14, 2016

They're racist

 

Jan 14, 2016

Tru

 

Jan 20, 2016

Of course they love to see blacks gettin whipped and hanged

 

Jan 20, 2016

...no

i think its 100% valid to call their embrace of certain stories/performances pure tokenism. like yes, that's great they award 12 years best picture... but why not take the opportunity to award steve mcqueen as well, making him the first black director to win an oscar? why are you defending the hollywood elite btw? you should be reveling in the obvious hypocrisy for a largely liberal crowd clearly showing signs of datedness and bias.

 

Jan 20, 2016

Do you really think Straight Outta Conpton is Oscar material though

I enjoyed it a lot, not hating, genuinely curious

Never heard anyone say it was Best Picture worthy until it was "snubbed" lol

 

Jan 20, 2016

The Martian was better than revebant Leo might have to sit down another year

 

Jan 20, 2016

i enjoyed it... definitely had its weak points (second half lol, corey hawkins). i think it ended up as my #10 favorite film of the year, ultimately.

but thats beside the point. its about the pedigree -- it's essentially a middlebrow biopic about entertainers, it was widely popular ($$), and most importantly... it had plenty of guild support. traditionally, if you get SAG and PGA attention (plus afi, nbr), that translates to a best picture nod. it's just rare to see a snub for a film with these sorts of attributes. not to mention nominating it would've been great optics this yr.

 

Jan 20, 2016

Never Forget

 

Jan 20, 2016

Idk how people feel that Leo gets the Oscar. He laid dead basically for half the movie lol

 

Jan 20, 2016

If it lost it would have been ok ...Its not a good movie for anyone to see...They keep pushing agendas that are counter productive instead of uplifting the good of mankind...Unbroken was good

 

Jan 20, 2016

idk...I thought it was well done, fun entertainment, not a lot more. It seems like all of this "Straight Outta Compton should've been nominated!" stuff is coming from a political place (it's an all-black cast!) rather than on the merits. There are plenty of other far more acclaimed films that got snubbed (see Carol, Inside Out) - but it doesn't fit that easily hashtagged #OscarsSoWhite (did I get that right?) narrative so we aren't mentioning them. I think Coogler and Jordan are far more egregious snubs though, if we really want to embrace this premise

 

Jan 20, 2016

 

Jan 20, 2016

well, the oscars aren't interested in merits, they are wholly political. it's about the campaign, and the truth is creed and compton were both likely underserved by their studios.

and youre right def, carol and inside out both deserved to be nominated. this gets technical but essentially we're amidst a debate about preferential ballots, how many films you can put on those ballots, ever since TDK was overlooked. sasha stone makes a far greater case than i can here, but essentially there was a brief window when diverse films were nominated... district 9, kids are all right, toy story 3 being examples. theyve since changed the rules again which forces voters to select less films... so today the top 9 or 10 slot which mightve gone to, say, creed is left off. you're instead banking on voters who are older and typically white, to place a movie like compton as their #1 seed. they wont, whereas they mightve included it lower on the ballot. so, in short, capping it is the issue, not straight forward snidely whiplash racism -- but what ever is? (ftr, inside out is snubbed for the reasons i describe, plus it gets regulated to the animated category..... regarding carol, they must dislike an openly gay director telling gay stories. they prefer the likes eddie redmayne carrying the banner of "progressive" storytelling) --- also, i think you are mistaken to suggest the Compton outcry is out of left field. plenty of seasoned oscar prognosticators were predicting it. it's snub is a genuine shock, for the reasons i previously mentioned

??? who cares if its a biopic, even if its inaccurate -- hollywood loves those. what are you even talking about?

yes, best song was a nice consolation prize to a film that should've been nominated for best actor AND best director. it's great common has an oscar, but the fact is this is a business, and if a well reviewed, pedigree-anointed film like Selma -- pushed by Oprah -- can't get in, what conclusion are you supposed to draw? (btw, glory was an obvious choice for best song, cmon..).. also, read my post above to swizz. TDK is why the ballot rules were changed you're out of your depth, good sir.

 

Jan 20, 2016

^Selma DID get in

 

Jan 20, 2016

For Best Picture and Best Song, yes. It was predicted for Best Actor and Ava DuVernay, which was poised to be a historic selection. Those were the high profile categories, and omitting them felt like a slight.

Again, the core issue here is ballots... but also diversifying the Academy, which as Cheryl Boone Isaacs recently put it, is not without precedent. there's a reason why so many great films in the 70s were rightfully acknowledged. The Academy opened up their membership then. They haven't done it since, which is why films that get nominated telling, say, black stories are usually safe films like Ray (directed by a middle age white man).

 

Jan 20, 2016

Well I'm glad to see the ballot rules were changed, albiet, only temporarily, but out of the films selected, I have a hard time seeing Compton or Creed "absolutely 100% beating out the competition". I'm sure most people tweeting racism haven't seen the films nominated. The only one I haven't seen is Brooklyn, and I can say that each film up there is pretty great. And who knows. Maybe my bias in favor of Compton is because the topic greatly appeals to me. I loved Creed, but the best thing about it is the mythos behind the film and Stallone. I do think the Selma director deserved a nomination, but Birdman or Hotel clearly deserved the win.

Please remember that Crash won best picture in 2006, and although I admire them trying to bring racism in storytelling out of cliches...c'mon. It was a sloppy movie. I dont want more Crash-like victories. Not everything has to turn into the Golden Globes or Emmys where every trendy idea from identity politics gets awarded. We have seen "black" films and black actors win. This isn't the Grammys.

 

Jan 20, 2016

Ofc I remember them choosing Crash over Brokeback. But Crash isn't a "black" film -- it's a plodding liberal mess directed by a Canadian Scientologist. It's exactly the kind of weak-kneed crap the baby boomer-driven Academy tends to gravitate towards. My main beef with snubbing Compton is -- on paper, based off multiple industry factors -- it should have been nominated. Hard stop. That's why, to me, it's more an affront than Jordan or Coogler. They were always on the periphery this year, regardless of merit. Compton was absolutely in the conversation and was blatantly picked over. (edit: like, the only nomination for a movie about NWA was given to.... white people. and the writing was arguably the weakest part of the movie. White people were the only ones nominated -- it's a film directed, produced and starring african americans lol)

You're sugarcoating the Academy's history selecting "black" films and awarding black actors. It's absolutely abysmal. Look up Mississippi Burning.