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Started by Kevin, Nov 23, 2014, in Sports Add to Reading List

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Heard someone bring up a good point, Eagles are better at basically every position except QB and TE...but of course QB is a pretty huge difference. Pats got the coaching and experience edge though of course.

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They made it to the AFC championship (game before the super bowl)
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h--- ya! Hopefully the Vikings take it!

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I'll admit, 2001 is special to me, and in a lot of ways, this year's Philly team reminds me of that year (losing our starting QB and having our back up lead us to the Super Bowl and winning our first against a team that was considered a "dynasty" at the time).

But, yeah, they're all special to me, and they never get old. s---, there's games I see NOBODY mentioning that were truly special to me in this amazing playoff run (2006 vs Chargers, 2011 vs Ravens).

28-3 is the icing though. I still can't get over it. But, in saying that, the Malcolm Butler interception was icing too, so it's tough to say lol.

I remember watching the last Super Bowl between us, and even though Philly played great in the first half, my confidence level was so d--- high for our team that I wasn't even really nervous. That Pats team was such a machine, that I just figured they'd figure it out.

This time around, I don't think either team is that strong in comparison, but I feel like they're more evenly matched now than back then, if that makes sense. Like I don't know how confident I am in our defense to lock you guys down (even though they HAVE locked teams down).

I truly think that this Pats team is the weakest Pats team to reach the Super Bowl since the 2011 Pats team.

Anyways, here's some things I foresee happening....

If I'm Philly, I'm attacking Malcolm Butler. I wouldn't attack Gillmore or even Eric Rowe. Malcolm Butler is the weak link on our defense. I think Ertz could have a good game, but Chung is so d--- good against tight ends, that IDK. That, to me, is the biggest matchup on that side of the ball.

The weakness of the Patriots' defense is Butler lol I hate to say it because I praised him for the last few years, but he really regressed this season. He bites on double moves like crazy.

BEFORE James Harrison, I would've said the key would be to rush outside the tackles, but man, James Harrison is a beast at setting the edge against the rush. Our rush defense totally improved since he's arrived, which is hilarious because I totally wrote him off.

Not to say Philly CANT run on us, because I'm not sold on our front 7...

Our front 7 without Hightower has potential to be a shutdown defense.... It just hasn't really been tested. Like, vs Jags, the first half they played really soft, then the 2nd half they blitzed the s--- out of the Jags and shut them down... Or vs the Titans, they played soft at first, then blitzed second half and sacked Mariota 8 times...

Like, i don't know which defense is real lol. Plus, I don't put much stock into Jags and Titans offense.

On offense, I think Pats are gonna attack through our backs and Gronk. I don't really think our receivers are gonna do much. I'm sure Brady will take a few shots deep with Cooks, but I don't really like when he does that. Most teams have a really difficult time with our backs and Gronk. I don't think we'll run on Philly's defense, but Dion, Rex and White will probably have a big day catching the ball.

Look, in all honesty, I think Brady will eventually figure out your defense, even if they beat him into the ground at first. I think Brady will probably put up points and make a surge late.

However, it's our defense vs your offense that matters. I don't think Foles is gonna choke or anything, I just don't know which defense to expect. Just going by THIS YEAR, I think the Pats are gonna play soft at first (which means backing up the linebackers off the line of scrimmage), and they're gonna give up a lead. I'm gonna say 14-0 Eagles by 2nd quarter.... Then, I think they'll start being aggressive, and that's when the game will really start because i think the pats will ramp up the blitzes and exotic looks.

How Philly handles that, will determine the outcome of the game to me.
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Yea as a sports fan, I feel like winning would never get old, but that first win would just mean everything.

I think the biggest mismatch you guys have is obviously Gronk, but I think Jenkins is capable of matching up with him. Maybe throw some Mychal Kendricks at him every once in a while to throw him off. Like you, I also think the RBs are gonna have a big day, but I'd be ok with that. We just can't give up the big play.

I'm not sure how our offense is gonna be run because Pederson likes to switch it up. I expect some RPOs because they have worked really well for Foles. A steady dose of Ajayi and Blount is to be expected. I think the key to the game though will be Corey Clement. For some reason I just see him making a big play(s).

Special teams is also a thing to keep an eye out on. All it takes is one big return and that could flip the game.

Officially 24 hours out. I can't wait

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Kon said

Heard someone bring up a good point, Eagles are better at basically every position except QB and TE...but of course QB is a pretty huge difference. Pats got the coaching and experience edge though of course.
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This isn't to you, but I really hate those types of arguments, because it has nothing to do with anything lol. I agree though, Eagles have more talent, but I don't think that matters.

For instance, if Eagles can't cover our backs, their pass rush won't matter vs our offensive line, because Brady uses the backs almost like they're Julian Edelman. If he's getting it out within 2 seconds, it's not gonna matter. As a pass rusher, it's demoralizing.

Or, if the Pats secondary causes Foles to hold on to the ball, then it won't matter how good their offensive line is vs our defensive line, because they will have coverage sacks/pressure.

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Dawkins!! Lessssssss gooooooooo

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Boos said

Dawkins!! Lessssssss gooooooooo
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if you can, should go. visiting the hall is very affordable and something a football fan shouldn’t miss out on.

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Kon

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no surprise.

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Kon said

no surprise.
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I'll say this though... Not into weird stats like this, but I'm PRETTY sure an NFL MVP hasn't won a Super Bowl since like 1999.

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Boos said

Dawkins!! Lessssssss gooooooooo
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Pretty sure it was between Dawkins and Law too.... Eagles with the first W of the weekend lmao.

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Quadruple post.

Hey, are we gonna have a Super Bowl thread?

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Fitzy said

Pretty sure it was between Dawkins and Law too.... Eagles with the first W of the weekend lmao.
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I hate how they do that type of thing like only a certain amount of x position can make it a year. If they deserve it just put them in.

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definitely something I'll look into. Dawk is one of my favorite players of all time

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Boos said

I hate how they do that type of thing like only a certain amount of x position can make it a year. If they deserve it just put them in.

definitely something I'll look into. Dawk is one of my favorite players of all time
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Dawkins deserves it more, although Law should be in the Hall of Fame.

The only Patriot that SHOULD be more decorated is Richard Seymour. He's in my top 10 NFL players of all time. He'll never get the credit he deserves though. Such a shame.

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Fitzy said

Dawkins deserves it more, although Law should be in the Hall of Fame.

The only Patriot that SHOULD be more decorated is Richard Seymour. He's in my top 10 NFL players of all time. He'll never get the credit he deserves though. Such a shame.
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On our regional sports channel here the question was posed "who is the best player in the patriots run, outside of Brady," and the analyst said Seymour. He even went on to be solid with Oakland too

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Lmao at McVay over Pederson

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Boos said

On our regional sports channel here the question was posed "who is the best player in the patriots run, outside of Brady," and the analyst said Seymour. He even went on to be solid with Oakland too
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He changed our defense. Best two gap defensive lineman in NFL history. I don't care what anyone says. He made Bruschi and our linebackers WAY better than what they were.

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Fitzy said

The only Patriot that SHOULD be more decorated is Richard Seymour. He's in my top 10 NFL players of all time.
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He was a great player. And he doesn’t get enough credit because he was a 3-4 end

But calling him a top 10 player of all time is definitely an unpopular opinion. I don’t even think your fellow ppl in Bawston would rank him that high

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Today is the day

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What're your guys' plans for today/tonight? I'm bout to go try and run off all the beer calories I'm drinking tonight and then watch hoops most of the day before it starts. Having a get together at my crib for it later and eating a f--- ton of food as well. Super Bowl Sunday is the best man.

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About to go play a game of football with all my friends. Then play the game on madden. My friends and I were thinking about watching downtown but came to the conclusion that in ten years we'd hate ourselves for not watching with our dad's lol, so I'm headed home to watch it

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