Apr 9, 2018Now bare with me. I know all you hear about is how rap is being continually dumbed now from a lyricism standpoint and that might still be true.
But it dawned on me the other day that as music is evolving and changing, and artists are trying to outdo eachother and outdo the past, that maybe there is actually a more complex approach to some rap music, and that's having a negative impact overall.
Think about it, how often do you hear a song where it's straight forward lyrics with a clear point that only hinges on what's being said and how dope the rappers delivery and authenticity is? It's not just about how top notch the lyricism is, I'm not speaking on that. Just the approach to the whole process.
Every artist adds quirks to their verse now, or tries to be artistic with their delivery or abstract lyricism, that I feel like a lot of tracks kind of lose their meaning along the way.
Seems like no one can just spit a verse over a banging beat anymore. Rappers are rapping faster, or too vague and "artistic". Or with vocal effects. What happened to hip hop beats? Why forgo them? Hip hop beats would still be played on the radio in 2018. It's not that, people are just trying something different.
Maybe it's a good thing, it shows people are trying to move he genre farther and in new directions. But it used to be so easy to say "that's a dope verse" or "look what he did here", and it's honesty not anymore. Everything is vague or stylized. The meaning is always hidden under layers of distractions or up for interpretation. Even with 'rappers' rappers' like Kendrick.
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Apr 1, 2018
I’m gonna preface this by shamelessly plugging my only video but you can also go ahead and use it as an introduction if you’re not familiar with my music
don’t quite have a timeline, but i’m thinking maybe june/july
posting snippets below cause that seems like a rapper thing to do
features gonna be limited probably but idk, that could change
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Mar 23, 2018
I see this a lot. Particularly on this forum. Especially from the younger generation. I used to think this myself because of how much it was parroted, honestly. It just isn't true though.
I'm not a fan of Crooked I myself but he makes very, very good points here. Lyricism is about storytelling... painting pictures. Poetry. Something Tupac did very well. He was also able to tackle complex ideas and topics in a simplistic manner with his words. You felt his words. They carried real weight. That's a very important aspect of lyricism. A good poem isn't a good poem just because of big words (not that Tupac didn't have a relatively big vocabulary) or because it's complex. A good poem is a good poem because you FEEL it. Or maybe it just makes you think.
Here's some examples of lyricism in his discography.... I could go on though.
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Mar 22, 2018
Ay brothers
I made a nice lil Jeffery list of my favorite songs, shaped it up p nice so it could be a potential tool to get people into his music. Take a look and discuss your absolute favorite SEX songs itt.
https://www.razvahn.com/best-of-jeffery/
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He's supposedly in jail for showing up late to court on a charge, someone said he supposedly was drunk f---ing a thot in his car and 12 pulled up, but you know IG comments can be lying and it could be more serious
Edit: it could be for a DUI, or gun possession
HE COULD FACE 5-10 YEARS
#FREEAKADEMIKS
His GF said she'll take over his YT and Twitch Account
Look at his GF's IG story, her @ is angelicaggx
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Dec 28, 2017
One of my favourite things about listening to hip hop is discovery. I’ve been listening for years but still have so much new s--- discover. New artists, groups, singles, albums, discographies, labels, cities, sub-genres. There’s an insane amount out there and I’ve only heard a fraction of it. So this club will be dedicated to discovery. Every Thursday I’ll be posting a completely random album - it could be a classic or trash, old school or new school, popular or obscure, it doesn’t matter. Everyone in the mention group can give the album a rating out of 10 and I’ll average out the scores to create a catalogue of album ratings, discuss what worked and what didn’t work, the best songs, the worst songs, the album art, the production, the lyrics, the music, everything.
Like this post or let me know if you wanna be added to the mentions
Week 1: [1999] Things Fall Apart - The Roots
Week 2: [2015] Maxo 187 - Maxo Kream
Week 3: [2002] The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse - Jay-Z
Week 4: [2011] Follow Me Home/[2015] 90059 - Jay Rock
Week 5: [2007] Curtis - 50 Cent
Week 6: [1997] Ghetto D - Master P
Week 7: [2014] The Waters - Mick Jenkins
Week 8: [2012] Mysterious Phonk: The Chronicles of SpaceGhostPurrp - SpaceGhostPurrp
Week 9: [1996] h--- on Earth - Mobb Deep
Week 10: [2017] Bulletproof - Young Dolph
Week 11: [2018] Veteran - JPEGMAFIA
Week 12: [2003] Diplomatic Immunity Vol.1 - DipsetLast edited: Mar 23, 2018Groovy Tony, TimmyT, Fire Squad and 7 others like this.Jun 13, 2026 -
Nov 29, 2017
Like I personally think BIG was better, but if I'm being honest he has no longitivtiy ever having only released 3 discs.
What other rapper been literally releasing good music for over 20 years. Yeah, 20 years.
This man has a literal entire library worth of good listening material. He's influenced a ton of people, always remained relevant, never hit rock bottom like virtually every other artist.
Has three or four albums people will put 1-5 on any top record ever list. Anyone who actually dislikes Jay is Hopsin fan or hasn't tried listening to his music. Achieved both mainstream popularity and critical acclaim to the maximum level.
He has the pedigree, the consistent greatness and career. Is he the GOAT if you had to be as objective as possible about things?Thy, Ordinary Joel, asvdawg and 7 others like this.Jun 13, 2026 -
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Dare u to name a better track to cruise to tbhOrdinary Joel, Rowney, Sign Language and 7 others like this.Jun 13, 2026 -
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It is officially the day of the GOAT let's celebrate
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Oct 4, 2017
"You must ain't get the memo
I don't cut b------s no more
But your b---- my exception"
imagine a gay dude disliking you so much that he f---s your girl
straight savage
@Ben @Skrt skrt @Sign Language @WavyTylerEatingDicks
i'm supposed to be writing an essay rn
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Sep 29, 2017
Ye @ :20 :redkoolaid:
wayne dropping jewels throughout the vid>>>
tyler being proud of himself>>>>
the alternate versions of the verses>>>>
this vid has it all smh i need way more ye x t & t x wayne in my life
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KRIT season is here! His first independent album since leaving Def Jam. This will be a double disc album.
![[IMG]](http://hiphop-n-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/big-krit-4eva-is-a-mighty-long-time.jpg)
Disc One:
- “Big K.R.I.T.”
- “Confetti”
- “Big Bank” f. T.I.
- “Subenstein (My Sub IV)”
- “1999” f. Lloyd
- “Ride Wit Me” f. UGK
- “Get Up 2 Come Down” f. Cee-Lo & Sleepy Brown
- “Layup”
- “Classic Interlude”
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Disc Two:
- “Justin Scott”
- “Mixed Messages”
- “Keep the devil Off”
- “Miss Georgia Fornia” f. Joi
- “Everlasting”
- “Higher Calling” f. Jill Scott
- “Weekend Interlude”
- “Price of Fame”
- “Drinking Sessions” f. Keyon Harrold
- “The Light” f. Bilal, Robert Glasper, Kenneth Whalum & Burniss Earl Travis II
- “Bury Me In Gold”
Singles:
Confetti
Keep the Devil off
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