Jul 17, 2017 y watch youtube tutorials when you can watch the man himself u wont reach a zaytoven workflow by working in software lol, no fl studio tutorial is gnna catch the same magic
Jul 17, 2017 I shouldn't let this thread ruin my mood im bout to go to the store and buy some alcohoool now that i can
Jul 17, 2017 edgy is thinking the stuff zaytoven slaps together is anything but your everyday average trap beats
Jul 17, 2017 so u agree you'd have to be tone deaf to think zaytovens stuff is amazing? glad we're on the same page
Jul 17, 2017 eager to jump to a conclusion huh no im saying you have to be tone deaf to consider zay beats as generic trap beats :^]
Jul 17, 2017 >this fa---- is literally cyre wow why am i even replying at this point boi can u even play a keyboard
Jul 17, 2017 Well not even all of those are needed to make "thought-provoking" lyrics Vince Staples has very "simple" lyrics, on-paper, but i find him very thought-provoking
Jul 17, 2017 it is, bc if u were you would recognize his skills as a organist and musician clicking around in some daw like some nerd cant compare to playing actual instruments
Jul 17, 2017 it's completely not though? like, his production is still generic trap at best. he can be a super talented musician and still be a subpar producer m8 no one in here was comparing production and playing live till you did just now but since you try to make this a thing, sure, they can't compare. but before you go and jerk yourself off, why would they compare? they're completely different approaches to music. and one is not inherently better than the other. it's still coming down to what you can do with it all
Jul 17, 2017 ye, on one approach you think out your music in an effort to design it, and with the other its pure improvised expression. one of the takes leave a human touch, feeling and demands actual musicianship, the other sounds robotic and stiff which can be a direction too i guess also its rly funny how u time after time call trap pioneers generic, its like saying rakim is generic bc a lot of ppl after him took after his style
Jul 17, 2017 imagine having to think out your music and not having it in your fingers @CockMaster what do u say if ur working with someone and they want to modulate the hook to a gb harmonic minor with a new chord progression. do you just stand there and say "uuuuuh hold up let me draw a loop for it"? thats gnna stop the creative process and mess it up for every1 in the room.
Jul 17, 2017 yeah, you totally got me there. I totally forgot not a single musician ever sat down to think our their music and put effort into creating it, clearly all music recorded with live instrumentation is just random jam sessions and clearly no producer has ever gone about creating their music in a way that is unprepared or expressive jesus christ so, you're one of those people. i mean, not really surprising considering you're you, but d---, I always forget people like this exist i didn't bring up zaytoven specifically m8. i almost never bring up specific trap producers by name, I don't care enough to know them by name generally but i also don't care if they pioneered something when all their beats sound like the same s--- other people can/are churning out at a rapid pace yeah, f--- having to think about stuff amirite cool super out of left field example of a scenario I can literally picture almost never happening to anyone ever when writing music i'm sure there's totally nothing in the production world that could ever cause this sort of hiccup between a producer and someone completely unfamiliar with the process also, it's certainly not like it's possible for people who don't play instruments to know anything about music theory. clearly you have to play an instrument fluently to know anything about notes, chords, scales etc. ... god, you're an especially dumb c---- this morning
Jul 17, 2017 also, i like how your criticisms of production vs live playing can be directly traced back to the way you personally produce (heavy reliance on presets and pre-setup s--- and fancy plugins that do a lot of s--- for you) glad to know you're not projecting or anything and are totally being objective about this
