Jun 12, 2015 i don think u see the difference between me saying the onus is on the listeners to unravel thug not for him to dumb it down or spell it out for them.
Jun 12, 2015 But it's ignorance because they don't understand him and if they did and they still didn't like him is it still ignorance? Or is that some other term you'll use to defend him?
Jun 12, 2015 he makes a hot boy references, says "juvie thats still my big boi who always told me im the best to do it," etc, "500 degreez n-----, 500 degreez n-----" is all he says haha, it just ties into all the other juvie and hot boy references the best part is actually that part of the hook (been in jail since we were little >>>>) i think wayne released all his best recent s--- with sftw2...at least thats what it seems like lol all these other tracks are very lackluster in comparison.
Jun 12, 2015 lmfao now you're just jumping all over the f---ing place when were we once talking about the music? literally not even once in this entire thread. its all been about his image now when you're grasping for straws there you're just jumping the gun and saying id call people ignorant even if they just didnt like his music? k guy
Jun 12, 2015 lol i read back what i wrote/u wrote and immediately saw i was wrong kk back to the topic: if they "understood" his image, what legitimately reason can u conjure up for them still not liking him?
Jun 12, 2015 because that's ur argument right? that theres some magical part of the internet where people aren't turned off my thug's image due to ignorance, or homophobia, or misunderstanding, but simply because...why? @Deadpool
Jun 12, 2015 If I don't like a person because of there personality does that make me ignorance or do I just not like there personality? Your making it seem like everyone that doesn't like thug is bashing him when yes in this magic place on/in the Internet/world people don't give a d--- about him
Jun 12, 2015 Is this proof or an assumption cause I can guarantee theres more proof juve and Wayne was a family than this
Jun 12, 2015 are you kidding? this is pretty well-known, verifiable history. juvenile began legal proceedings to get out of his contract at the start of 2002. he tried to bring wayne with him. wayne balked, realigned himself with baby, and dropped that album. wayne and juve didn't speak (according to juve) until the mid-2000s when wayne approached him about the legal process for leaving cash money, something he never followed through on.
Jun 12, 2015 im basing it off of discussions ive actually had, you're defending an imaginary sect of people u cant cite, let alone assume to know how theyd react/why
Jun 12, 2015 It was just an example to go with the first part if I don't like a person that doesn't make me ignorant I've meet people who don't like a person because of the way they act does that make them ignorant? That's all I was saying Yea but I'm saying they where a family thug has no long term relationship with Wayne, that's like someone new entering your family on your dad side or some s--- and saying I'm taking over the family business
Jun 12, 2015 But the difference is ur comparing meeting normal people vs a performer. It's not the same, and shouldn't be, no? If you met thug in person you're interactions would probably go as all interviews describe him/his persona: polite, creative, funny, goofy, and full of stories that he'll communicate how he wants when he wants. If you can't see through or comprehend an artists mythologized persona than you are ignorant in the sense that I'm using ignorant to mean dense/thick headed/shortsighted etc It's not all about his skin color, tattoos, piercings, and antics. Although a lot of it is. It's about puttin in the effort to unravel and understand someone before judging/dismissing them. And I think we agree there
