Dec 30, 2014

Dope post. I would be wrong to say that Cole wasn't trying to be somewhat deep. But again I believe you're asking for a completely different song when you're saying
"He doesn't say "hey women have layers too and are sometimes a good girl and sometimes a hoe." What i'm trying to say is that without him expressing that women, too, are multidimensional and hypocritical as well it misconstrues the message of the song and the message becomes one of any other misogynistic song"
You're asking for him to justify his hypocritical, misogynistic stance with more depth by humanizing these women, but what I'm saying is that I believe he intends the song to sound to sound like how we hear it. He's analytic, yes but its also ignorant in the same vein as IDFWU is. Like other rappers, he's in a sense as bad as the women he's criticizing in the sense that he's as shallow as they are. That's why its in the Hollywood section of the album. His anaylsis is very shallow in comparison to his verses on Hello when he's talking to to an ex or even his analysis on 03 Adolescence. Like I said to @Narsh I don't believe the song was meant to be as deep as y'all want it to be. I also understand how you could see that as making a song weaker, but I don't think we should expect every rapper to justify every viewpoint or give the whole story in every song because as misogynistic as this song seems its real. These are the type of discussions homies have all the time, and even though its wrong and they are generalizations, i think its very human. In the context of the album, I think it works nicely. As a song by itself, I think your criticism is somewhat warranted.

 

Dec 29, 2014

@Kold, you've heard Kendrick's old stuff? Heart pt. 2, Faith, Vanity Slaves, I hate You (that whole KLEP), Ignorance is Bliss, etc. I don't think Cole and Kendrick are all that different bruh

 

Dec 29, 2014

Cool, sure, but if he does NOTHING to represent the other side of the ball, to humanize those women (even the ones he considers "aren't worth s---" lol) then it's a weak attempt at being social commentary. It's too broad, it generalizes too much

 

Dec 29, 2014

http://sectioneighty.com/forum/threads/fhd-social-media-appreciation-praise-thread.28819/

Shout to all the people that made this thread possible on JCN.
The praise this album has been getting is ridiculous.
Will probably make an end-of-the year album list thread when some more lists come in.

 

Dec 29, 2014

exactly

 

Dec 29, 2014

nothing mysognystic about that song

there's a difference between b------s and sisters
if the j cole song didn't get though to you, try this one
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Dec 29, 2014

Can't do a top 5.

 

Dec 29, 2014

Truly Yours 4, Chance Project, and Revenge of the Dreamers 2 all coming next year.

Patience is a virtue.

 

Dec 29, 2014

bro pay attention - king of the south - mind control is such a sick 3 track stretch. Mind control hook

 

Dec 28, 2014

"Still calling my bullets Expendables 'cause it's hard to believe I can fit all of them boys in one clip"



PRhyme is too slept on, part of it probably because it dropped on the same day as Cole's LP.

 

Dec 28, 2014

lol take care drake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mixtape drake bruh


take care is a f---ing classic.

 

Dec 28, 2014

Is it safe to say that Cole's best verse wasn't on his album?

 

Dec 27, 2014

Yeah, because 10 of em are from young thug funniest s--- I've probably read in my life.

 

Dec 27, 2014

Soul Tape 3 was my fave mixtape last year (Joint fave with King Remembered in Time).

Fab has always been a tidy rapper.

 

Dec 27, 2014

goat show, goat name.

 

Dec 26, 2014

Are you born on January 28th ?

 

Dec 26, 2014

Jan 28 is a great ringtone. Those first 30 secs work out nice. That beat