Serious Israel-Gaza Erupt In Violence

Started by Enigma, May 12, 2021, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 19, 2021


    great news!
     
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  2. Alpha
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    Alpha

    May 19, 2021
    Was sorta pissed and heated from the all footage I saw of the victims when I wrote that so I misworded it and it didn't come out as what I was tryna make it. It is what it is. My bad. But hey at least that's some sort of feet in this forum.
     
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  3. Alpha
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    Alpha

    May 19, 2021
    First of all I apologize for giving off the impression that I sounded Racist. I misworded what I was trying and intended on saying as I failed to elaborate and explain, my bad. I was infuriated from the footage I came across of dead children, victims etc under collapsed buildings that I could not write well when I posted that. Lives been taking away like nothing.

    Secondly, I don't think you fathom yet how bad the situation and this entire thing is and was despite whatever the media in the west is covering and showing you guys, but I believe it's merely a proportion of how f----- up it is and always was...Geographical distance plays a role and since I'm from the middle east, we know truly how bad this is and the danger Israel posses...as I personally have known Palestinian folks in real so I don't need to say more.

    Yes, it's always wrong to generalize and two wrongs never make a right and to be frank I do believe that a lot of Israeli people, especially the ones from younger generations are not at fault, but they're all caught up and it can't be helped.. unfortunately.

    Now let me educate you about few things in case you are not aware.
    In the Arab world and middle east, we were taught about Palestine and this matter and the history of it and the war with Israel since we were young and how Palestine is occupied by an entity called Israel, yes I say entity, because in the Arab world and the Arab media have always refused to acknowledge the existence of that state and in the media such as news they do not refer to it as "Israel" but rather "The Zionist" or "The occupational forces" + it is totally common and norm to hate on and even sound racist towards Israel here in the middle east, especially after the recent events.

    Now since I'm not your average stereotypical Arab/middle eastern and normally I wouldn't really stand with Arabs (the stereotypes in particular which are A LOT, especially from the older generations) because they generally do tend to be racist (without even being aware), privileged and they think they're better than everyone, uneducated, uncultured and very ignorant and some of them still live under a rock...I could go on and on, but that's a topic for another day and time. I'm not too fond of them. But if there's one thing they did right, is how common and how they come together when it comes to the Palestinian matter. Defending or showing any kind of sympathy towards Israel in any way or form in the middle east (if you're a Muslim & Arab especially), it's not even tolerable nor accepted to the point it's totally publicly and widely accepted to use racial slurs to describe them as I mentioned. It's not like they generally just go outta their way to do that, but that's the approach people take here. The mere mention of the name is loathed in a lot of parts of the middle east, rightfully so at this point, after all the recent events.

    Now if I may add, the case was never about just the Arabs standing in solidarity with Palestine. It's all about humanity and it's about d--- time this is gaining the media attention it needed to, because it has been going on for too d--- f---ing long.
    Israel has to be stopped at any cost at this point and separated far away from Palestine, they have done more and more and more than enough and if nuking and wiping them all out of existence is the solution, then so be it. Them and anyone backing them behind and pushing that agenda and propaganda deserves no ounce of peace in this world. The damage has been done long and far enough to Palestine. This has to be stopped at any d--- cost.

    Hate is never the answer. Neither is violence. I'm just too smart and aware to distinguish between right and wrong and just like how Alqaeda & Osama Bin Laden (and Isis too) deserved to perish for all the terror and harm it brought to this world, especially 9/11, just like how Saddam deserved his fate for all the terror he brought to this world. The case is similar with Israel. These criminals & terrorists gotta go.

    Anyone who sympathizes with Israel at this point either is either clueless and ignorant of what's really going on and about this whole matter and or probably just hates Muslims and Arabs in general.
    It's quite disgraceful and shameful to sympathize with them at this point. It really is. Palestinian lives matter.

    Lastly, Free Palestine. Thank you. You're welcome. Have a nice day.
     
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    Lucy #1

    May 20, 2021
    *Chrollo likes this post*

    So I was right, again?

    Yeah nice, sorry i worded the same sentiment in 2 sentences or less. I'll type a book for old mate next time
     
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    Chrollo ♱ كرولو

    May 20, 2021
    I'm very well aware of the situation, from me having egyptian background. There were multiple wars between Arab states, including Egypt, and Israel, for example over the Sinai peninsula. I also wasn't disagreeing with anything you said in your last post. The thing that got you banned was bringing Hitler into this and saying what he did was right, which felt very out of place, considering you said something about solidarity and humanity 1 paragraph later. The only thing Hitler did was commiting genocide, which was a major factor that even led to the founding of Israel after WW2. That was the only real issue I had with your post, and I still think that was a very problematic statement you made. Idk how you got unbanned but thanks for atleast speaking out and trying to clarify your points. Never will I defend Israels actions and I too wish it would cease to exist.
     
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    Alpha

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    And yea just for the record I obviously have no relation nor am I a supporter of Hitler or The Nazis, it's just that moment of anger from coming across footage of innocent dead victims etc that makes you say something like that. Heated moment.

    My period of being banned was cut short from 30 days till May 19th as I don't know how since it was my first time ever getting banned.
     
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    May 20, 2021
    im sure everyone here is an IR expert, but it seems to be the US commitment to Israel is underpinned by this longstanding geopolitical need to have a democratic ally in the middle east. it's fraught and deeply complex, but the idea that russia/china/xyz arent meddling in an effort to enhance their sway in the region is ludicrous. netanyahu needs to go -- he is corrupt, governing without a mandate, and is driving much of the current strife. before the keyboard progressives Officially Call for the US to kneejerk forfeit their chips to actual malevolent entities that would 100% create more instability and chaos , the short term , and most likely more achievable, call to action is removing netanyahu. but what do i know
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    This makes you staunchly pro-Israel & a supporter of genocide!! Sorry, I don’t make the rules Andy.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    glad to hear this.
     
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    May 20, 2021
    Are you fucken kidding me alpha got a 30 day ban for his post?

    Fucken h--- Chrollo is overkill
     
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    s--- mod
     
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    May 21, 2021
    No, this makes you a condescending douche bag who thinks the inferior middle east needs US policing all over them! Lets replace a leader for another, thats what US does best!
     
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    hargydon No investigation, no right to speak

    May 21, 2021
    Not only that, they’ve just violated the truce.
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    I think the U.S. being a world super power & Israel’s closest ally can play a significant role in coming to a diplomatic solution. I don’t know how that makes me believe the Middle East needs “policing.” People were literally saying Israel needed to be abolished in this thread, that’s 1000x more interventionist than anything I’ve said in this thread.
     
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    May 21, 2021
    it's not about policing or whatever inferiority chip you're on about. not saying i agree or disagree, but the fact is one of the lessons of the 20th century was a fight against fascism, totalitarianism. after two world wars, the us views itself as defending against the brutalism of the next regime (china, russia, whatever). its definitely not perfect and can be misguided, but thats driving the policy in israel more than anything. theres layers to this stuff you guys arent considering dont blame @Enigma lol
     
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    DKC hank trill

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    as chief keyboard progressive i Officially Call for the US to kneejerk forfeit their chips to actual malevolent entities that would 100% create more instability and chaos
     
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  18. lil uzi vert stan
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    lol i mean, cmon. six pages of people with eyerolling warm takes and u call that out? #hm

    edit or instead of mocking me u could point out where im wrong
     
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    DKC hank trill

    May 21, 2021
    I was joking at my own expense, I agree with a lot of what you said lol.
     
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    though I would also describe the USA as a "malevolent entity" in the middle east
     
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