Jan 30, 2015 ima use the first two songs i could think of You know what the Midwest is? Young and restless Where restless n----s might snatch your necklace And next these n----s might jack your Lexus Somebody tell these n----s who Kanye West is I walk through the valley of the Chi where death is Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless *gasps* Try to catch it *gasps* it's kinda hard Getting choked by detectives, yeah, yeah, now check the method They be askin' us questions, harass and arrest us Sayin' "We eat pieces of s--- like you for breakfast" Huh? Y'all eat pieces of s---? What's the basis? We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases A trunk full of coke, rental car from Avis My mama used to say only Jesus can save us Well mama I know I act a fool But I'll be gone 'til November, I got packs to move To the hustlers, killers, murderers, d--- dealers, even the skrippers To the victims of welfare for we livin' in h--- here, h--- yeah Now, hear ye, hear ye, want to see Thee more clearly I know he hear me when my feet get weary Cause we're the almost nearly extinct We rappers is role models: we rap, we don't think I ain't here to argue about his facial features Or here to convert atheists into believers I'm just tryna say the way school need teachers The way Kathie Lee needed Regis, that's the way I need Jesus So here go my single dog, radio needs this They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus That means guns, sex, lies, videotape But if I talk about God my record won't get played, huh? Well if this take away from my spins Which'll probably take away from my ends Then I hope this take away from my sins And bring the day that I'm dreamin' about Next time I'm in the club, everybody screamin' out vs I'm supposed to be the soldier, who never blows his composure Even though I hold the weight of the whole world on my shoulders I ain't never supposed to show it, my crew ain't supposed to know it Even if it means going toe to toe with a Benzino It don't matter I'd never drag them in battles that I can handle 'less I absolutely have to, I'm supposed to set an example I need to be the leader, my crew looks for me to guide 'em If some s--- ever does pop off, I'm supposed to be beside 'em That Ja s---, I tried to squash it, it was too late to stop it There's a certain line you just don't cross and he crossed it I heard him say Hailie's name on a song and I just lost it It was crazy, the s--- went way beyond some Jay-Z and Nas s--- And even though the battle is won I feel like we lost it I spent so much energy on it, honestly I'm exhausted And I'm so caught in it,I almost feel I'm the one who caused it This ain't what I'm in hip hop for, it's not why I got in it That was never my object, for someone to get killed Why would I want to destroy something I helped build? It wasn't my intentions, my intentions were good I went through my whole career without ever mentioning [Suge] And that was just outta respect, for not running my mouth And talking about something that I knew nothing about Plus Dre told me stay out, this just wasn't my beef So I did, I just fell back, watched and gritted my teeth While he's all over TV, down talking the man Who literally saved my life, like f--- it I understand This is business, and this s--- just isn't none of my business I'm still knowing this s--- could pop off at any minute, because There used to be a time when, you could just say a rhyme and Wouldn't have to worry about one of your people dying But now it's elevated, causeonce you put someone's kids in it The s--- gets escalated, it ain't just words no more is it? It's a different ball game, you call names and you ain't just rapping We actually tried to stop the 50 and Ja beef from happening Me and Dre had sat with him, kicked it and had a chat with him And asked him not to start it, he wasn't going to go after him Until Ja started yapping in magazines how he stabbed him f--- it, 50 smash him, mash him and let him have it Meanwhile my attention's pulled in another direction Some receptionist at the Source who answers phones at his desk Has an erection for me and thinks that I'll be his resurrection Tries to blow the dust off his mic and make a new record But now he's f----- the game up, cause one of the ways I came up Was through that publication, the same one that made me famous Now the owner of it has got a grudge against me for nothing? Well f--- it, that mothafucka could get it too, f--- him then But I'm so busy being pissed off, I don't stop to think That we just inherited 50's beef with Murder Inc And he's inherited mine, which is fine, ain't like either of us mind We still have soldiers that's on the front line That's willing to die for us as soon as we give the orders Never to extort us, strictly to show they support us And maybe shout 'em out in a rap or up in the chorus To show 'em we love 'em back and let them know how important it is To have Runyon Avenue soldiers up in our corners Their loyalty to us is worth more than any award is But I ain't tryna have none of my people hurt or murdered It ain't worth it, I can't think of a perfecter way to word it Than to just say that I love y'all too much to see the verdict I'll walk away from it all 'fore I let it go any further But don't get it twisted, it's not a plea that I'm copping I'm just willing to be the bigger man if y'all can quit popping Off at your jaws well then I can, cause frankly I'm sick of talking I'm not going to let someone else's coffin rest on my conscience cause no f---ing contest
Jan 30, 2015 it's debatable how much of that kanye even wrote oh god my sides i'll take it back if you ask really really nicely
Jan 30, 2015 if we're really going back on topic, this is a joke thread about eminem rapping about food - so talk about it
Jan 31, 2015 k--- yourself fa----. There is not a song on Encore that competes with the least great song on College Dropout
Jan 31, 2015 For real??? So workout plan> Like toy soldiers/evil deeds/yellow brick road/spend some time/never enough/one shot 2 shot??
Jan 31, 2015 college dropout, easily kanye's most relatable album (a fact that was I am sure very carefully calculated by his camp), is not even on the same level em was on in 2004, let alone 2000 and forget competing with where he's at now go to rapgenius or whatever site you want and find bars you think compete with the complex rhyming, beat riding, storytelling, structuring and multiple metaphor in even a track such as like toy soldiers. here's just the first line: "I'm supposed to be the soldier who never blows his composure even though I hold the weight of the whole world on my shoulders." that line alone is a metaphor for half a dozen different things just look at the rhymefest bars kanye (or more likely one of his producers or engineers) chose to open jw with: "you know what the midwest is, young and restless, where restless n----s might snatch your necklace and next these n----s might jack your lexus" now, wtf not ONE metaphor, or even a three syllable rhyme in sight go jerk off to kim kardashian again lel like toy soldiers on the other hand is a masterpiece containing incredible lyricism, never before heard revelations and a goat hook. and his flow with that memorized beat can only be described as surreal
Jan 31, 2015 Yo csw. You are completely right. Lyrically, Eminem blows Kanye out of the water. With the exception of like 4 of Ye's songs, it's not even a fair fight But Kanye fans aren't all about the lyrical acrobatics, in the same way Eminem fans aren't all about the most godly production ever. I think that's the key difference between an Em fan and a Ye fan and that's why guy's like you and me always end up arguing.
Jan 31, 2015 Also @csw621 if you're referring to Eminems discussion on how rap beefs can lead to death on "like toy soldiers" as the never before heard revelations, dudes have said that before plenty mang. Black Star comes to mind at first, but yeh. It's little things like that that get people riled up at you. Because you'll make a mostly valid argument "Eminem lyrics>Kanye lyrics" but then have things like "never before heard revelations" as if eminems bars were like world-shattering discoveries akin to Galileo saying the solar system is heliocentric. I'm js imagine a discussion on Travi$ Scott and I was like "Listen to the way he manipulates the guitar on Mamacita, that's never been done before. The entire trap element of Days Before Rodeo (his newest mix tape) has single-handedly advanced the subgenre by light years.". It's that combination of legitimate praise and high-key stanning that pisses people off because then you're entire argument is undermined by too much love for the artist in question
Jan 31, 2015 bro i meant revelations and information about eminem himself. if you want something groundbreaking about losing someone or love or health awareness listen to difficult or die alone or drips and re the other post if kanye's intent is to disguise generic, just passable as his own writing with a hot beat and a catchy hook i guess i probablty shouldn't tell you i think eminem is a better producer too
Jan 31, 2015 look, rappers like kanye west and meek mill. they don't care about rap. they don't care about making people happy with music. they care about themselves. they care about money. they care about their image. Alls I ever did was just say the s--- I would've wanted to hear other people say to me when I was a kid do you think kanye gives a f--- how many people he helps when he's going in for ray j's sloppy seconds?