Gucci vs. Jeezy vs. Tip

Started by Sav Stanfield, Jul 26, 2016, in Music Add to Reading List

Who's King of the ATL?

  1. Guwop

    45.9%
  2. Tha Snowman

    16.2%
  3. Clifford

    37.8%
  1. Yeezus
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    Jul 26, 2016
    In all fairness to Andre, he's already released several classics throughout the 90's and early 00's. He doesn't really need to release another album, so now he just does verses every now and then.

    I'll give these a listen. I recall listening to a couple of them but that was a while back so I'll give them another chance.

    How so? I've lost count of how many mixtapes he's dropped since 2010, let alone 2014.

    I shouldn't have said "a couple hits". I'm not saying that TI sucks, but rather Andre is better IMO.
     
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  2. Lamont
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    Jul 26, 2016
    Its definitely arguable. It's tough to compare right now, because Jeezy's career is all but finished and who knows what Future will acomplish down the line. and it depends on the criteria. I think one could argue a case for him being ranked over Jeezy, the more that I think about it. Jeezy might have him beat in influence/impact. TM101 & TM103 are possibly better than Future's best work.. The Recession is a good album too
     
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  3. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Jul 26, 2016
    lol ok dude. Nobody is arguing that T.I. is better than Andre.
     
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  4. Lamont
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    @M.I.C. did on SL, citing Andre's lack of solo albums as his reasoning
     
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  5. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    I actually think that's one of the angles you can't take in this debate. Future has steered the sound of rap since like, the end of 2011.
     
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  6. Lamont
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    Yeah, I hesitated on that one. But one could argue that T-Pain contributed to that sound you are talking about, as well, before Future did. Jeezy was very influential with his first few albums. People forget about that.
     
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  7. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    I think Jeezy was certainly influential.

    I don't see anything tying T-Pain to Future other than their use of Autotune. Future was using it to manipulate his voice into a slippery, bitter sound over drastically different beats; T-Pain was using it to sound clean and alien in tradition Top 40 pop formats.
     
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  8. Lamont
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    thats a good point about the autotune
     
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  9. Packman
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    I think it's a Beast Mode kinda night
     
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  10. Packman
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    Also, Heavy is a top 10 song across all genres
     
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  11. vbdubz
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    vbdubz https://soundcloud.com/kidcas/

    Jul 27, 2016
    Not even a question. He even steered Drake, who in turn steers everyone else lol
     
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  12. Lamont
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    Expending on my comment - @WPG whats your top 5 rappers from ATL? dunno my list
     
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  13. Ordinary Joel
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    Ordinary Joel Happiness begins when selfishness ends

    Jul 27, 2016
    TIP. Atlanta's own King of the South, shawty

    :ohmy:

    Admittedly I've never peeped Gucci Mane's stuff properly but from the few songs I've heard his style doesn't really appeal to me.

    Also to those who keep bringing up Andre/Outkast (@Yeezus / @Rick James), @Sav inexplicably stated that this was after Outkast's legendary run.
     
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  14. mow
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    mow long live flippa

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  15. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    Jul 27, 2016
    Gucci fathered pretty much every ATL rapper this decade. Hard to argue with that.
     
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  16. Sav Stanfield
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    Interesting to see how this debate has spiralled out.

    The reason I only included Gucci, Tip and Jeezy in the poll is because they all started their career roughly around the same time (Tip a little earlier than the others), have significantly influenced the genre and are now 10+ years into their careers and are still putting out music, to varying extents of success (the reason for excluding Luda is that his output pretty much stopped after 2010, 3 Stacks - despite his incredible guest features - because he hasn't put out a project since '06).

    T.I. had an incredible mid-late 00's run and now may be picking up a bit of momentum for a second comeback (Da Nic was incredible). Jeezy also had a great run but his latest few albums efforts have been pretty sub-par. Gucci on the other hand seems entirely unpredictable. I liked Everybody Looking and I'm curious to see what direction he goes next. Obviously you cant discount his influence. You could argue argue that Gucci fathered the sounds of modern trap and drill. Then again, Jeezy and T.I.'s influence on those genres are quite clearly evident as well. The reason for excluding Future and Thug is because their careers started this decade. It'll be interesting to contrast their careers 10 years down the line (and obviously I agree that they're the current hottest thing in the ATL right now). But I see Future and Thug kind of like how 50 Cent and Cam were to NY in the mid 00's. Nas and Jay were still the kings but 50 and Cam were coming for their spot. We all know how that turned out.

    Interesting note, T.I's leading the poll, with Gucci in second and Jeezy a distant third.
     
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  17. M.I.C.
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    Honestly it's beyond weird that you remember that because I don't but I know it's something I would have said during that time period. I don't agree with it today at all but I do think T.I. is underrated as a rapper. Hate him as a human being though. Gucci obviously takes the cake as the most influential in ATL ever but Andre is (was) a better rapper than both of them. Jeezy lol.

    GO DIG YA PARTNER UP n----- BET HE CAN'T SAY s---

     
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  18. Lamont
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    Yeah i remember being kind of annoyed at the comment so thats probably why i remembered. Could be wrong, it could be someone else.
     
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  19. canyouduck
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    canyouduck 50-0

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    Voted gucci cuz waybach bangs
     
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  20. pronx
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