Dec 12, 2025 The drugs messed his brain up. He's still witty but not so much on the mic. When Em first started out he rapped fast and like every word needed to rhyme. He had to be told to stop doing it lol. He needs to be told again but he's that late into his career, that isn't gonna happen
Dec 12, 2025 Eminem is still witty. The wordplay he's been doing last decade or so is more complicated and wittier than the Columbine line, it just hits different. You can say he has bad ones, but the good ones are brilliant. If he were to drop the need to make double entendres he would default back to that old wit. He still shows that. "He'd have to f--- Kim in my flannel" comes to mind, or the whole segment of making himself at home for Lord Jamar. There's many more examples. He never lost it. Though the drug fueled worst state Eminem has the funniest line: what's that on the seat? custom mustard stain.
Dec 12, 2025 I said this before but I just don’t buy the whole “drugs messed him up” excuse. As others have pointed out there’s many other anrtists and celebrities that did a whole lot worse than a few sleeping pills and they’re absolutely fine. Look at f---ing Steve-O from Jackass. Still as funny as he ever was. Post-clone’d Eminems humour has always seemed so forced and inauthentic to me. Look at that period around MMLP2 when he was acting like an absolute weirdo for no reason whatsoever. It just wasn’t funny. The last time I saw the real Eminem actually being his humorous self was the Funny People cameo.
Dec 12, 2025 Nah Em was taking more than Sleeping tablets. He was taking s--- like Seroquel and anything he could get his hands on in terms of downers. Those medications are used for a variety of things and if abused are lethal. They'll have the man acting like a completely different person. And on top of that, if he had any mental illness before taking the pills, and abusing for years then that too will play a massive part destroying Em's mental state. s--- the amount he was rumoured to be taking every day was crazy. He's lucky he isn't a complete r----- in a wheelchair dribbling, no joke.
Dec 12, 2025 Jamar's reaction to that line was priceless. He was 100% positive it was a racial jab telling him to fetch the remote for Eminem like he was his slave.
Dec 12, 2025 I do. As I've said I can enjoy Relapse for what it is. I just have no delusions about it being his second prime, as a lot of Relapse fans seem to. In particular, I'll always have a soft spot for Deja Vu, Hello (esp the 3rd verse), Back & Forth (esp 1st verse), Chemical Warfare, to name a few.
Dec 12, 2025 It isn't a delusion. Compare his delivery and flow to his new stuff and then compare it to the prime material. Relapse is very close to his prime way closer than current Eminem.
Dec 12, 2025 Well whether Relapse is "technically" closer to his prime than is his recent music is a separate discussion. Relapse is not close to MMLP, period. And I'm factoring other things in besides technical aspects, especially charisma and wit.
Dec 12, 2025 This is a song I often quote to my girlfriend, to her disappointment, when I say "I can f--- her no faster"
Dec 12, 2025 I didn’t say MMLP specifically buddy I'm talking as a whole. Agree to disagree anyway I don't even listen to Eminem like that anymore.
Dec 12, 2025 I remembered the interview (thank god for subtitles so I could find the part instantly with Ctrl+F). @35:30 that Fall line was "a coded reminder of slavery" to "evoke dominance over the black man" LOL:
Dec 12, 2025 You took that too literally, I think. I just said "MMLP" as basically another way to say "prime Eminem", since it's an album almost everyone agrees is one of his best. But whether we're talking about MMLP or his prime "as a whole" I think our basic disagreement stands, no?
