Classic Albums: Which Do You Like? Which Don't You Like?

Started by Sahara, Jun 9, 2018, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Sahara
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    You don't have to be so dismissive/combative tho. It makes it a draining exercise that becomes about ego/being right instead of discussion and learning.

    That aside... you're doing a good job of arguing it. You can have arguments about who started what all the way up to the first time someone made a beat with rocks in the stone age tho lol. At the end of the day... It's pretty d--- clear Eminem had a lot of influence.
     
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  2. Oldboy
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    bro...the 2 songs are nothing alike at all...completely different concepts...thats like saying 2pac So Many Tears and nickleback lullaby are copies from each others
     
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    what does the black guys have to do with anything? why is their color an issue for you? what i am saying is, Eminem popularized a style that wasnt commercial before him
     
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    eeeeeh, biggie was more of the same...rapping about gangstas guns b------s and all of that....again, eminem was different
     
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  5. Big Dangerous
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    I don't understand. His subject matter was that. But he was 100% as detailed and meticulous as Eminem. You're wrong.

    So now it's Eminem was the first rapper to create stories about, a certain subject or theme?

    Biggie is/was a better storyteller than Eminem is.
     
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    THANK YOU, yes that what i was trying to say for 4 pages

    jesus..he made rapping about subjects different than what everyone rapped about popular... i actually think there is a skit about it on one of his albums
     
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    btw, nelly himself would tell you eminem had more impact on the culture than he did..biggie would too if you can somehow resurrect him to ask
     
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    LMAO, is this a Youtube comment
     
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  9. Charlie Work
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    Yeah, and BOB would tell you the earth is flat. Doesn't mean it's true.
     
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    oh..your actually gonna deny that was most of his subjects?

    ok i will leave this thread now its obviously trolling
     
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    :7uyiky:
     
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  12. Oldboy
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    a rapper reflecting on his own career vs someone else isnt the same as someone opinion on a scientific fact charlie

    now im out
     
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    Well Niggaz Bleed is better storytelling than Stan
     
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    Wish I didn't include it in the OP now lol
     
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    When u include eminem its always stans vs 'haters'
     
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    all eyez on me really isn't that good compared to me against the world.... also low end theory is still good but aged terribly compared to MM
     
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    I love aquemini but atliens is still better to me
     
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    Me against the world and 7 day theory are better imo
     
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  19. mastersplinterfather
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    so I see that you keep mentioning authenticity in your posts. define what the term authencity means to you
     
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    You can kinda argue its application is completely arbitrary but to me it's about being genuine. Raw. Real. Pure. Like there are a ton of gangster rappers out there... But you know DMX and 2Pac came from a real place. The pictures they painted were drawn from real, heightened emotions. Whether they were mob bosses or official g--- members doesn't matter. They were intense characters that actually had a lot behind what they were saying. You could just tell. They were hardened soldiers but vulnerable and sensitive. Their spirits are laid bare in the music. They were very human.

    Kanye too. He says what he wants to say. Some may argue that because he tries so hard to be authentic he inherently isn't but I'd disagree. I think Kanye is who he is.

    That doesn't mean I don't like Rick Ross for example. His music is just less impactful for me. It's just never going to hit in such a potent way.
     
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