Best Posts: America is burning

  1. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Sep 2, 2020
    harris would have those women deported
     
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  2. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Sep 1, 2020
    Surprised you don’t! Can’t wait for the “JMG endorses Kamala Harris” thread!
     
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  3. Goku187
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    Sep 1, 2020
    Well I thought you had previously said you would NOT be voting for Biden, which is part of what was coloring my last few posts. Of course I agree with you that Biden is not perfect and not beyond criticism

    to answer your original question, my big fear is progressives staying home because they’re unhappy with Biden. I suspect we aren’t going to see as much of that as we did in 16 - but again, in a close election, it could matter

    Man none of this is “dementia” lol

    I say this as someone who wanted a younger nominee, trust me
     
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  4. dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl
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    Sep 1, 2020
    End of the day i'm votin for Joe. 4 years of an old a---, possibly declining man, with his heart & platform in the right place vs 4 more years of a fear mongering, no-game-plan having, violence inciting racist that wants to putinize himself into a third or lifelong term.

    Its 4 years of Biden, not a marriage ceremony, literally just 4 years. Once they're up, we can just go on our jolly way to the primaries & try to elect the other candidate.

    He's got his issues, and i certainly don't like them, but even with them he's the better option.
     
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  5. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Sep 1, 2020
    andy isn’t coming to your baby shower
     
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  6. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Sep 1, 2020
    Not as bad as people make it out to be, but yes. I don't think he's mentally incompetent as it stands, but I worry about his mental health deteriorating a couple years down the line. (To be clear, I'd be worried about Bernie's as well even though he seems 100% mentally sound right now—you just never know once you hit a certain age).
     
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  7. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Sep 1, 2020
    again: painfully naive to think that there’s just a certain way to protest that trump and republicans would be totally flummoxed by and not be able to turn into a culture/race war.

    and by “you people” i mean folks whose salaries are paid by the biden campaign!
     
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  8. Kon
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    Kon

    Aug 30, 2020
    I meant confused about what he meant in his post, I'm not confused bout how to feel about everything going on in America.

    anyways we're getting very close to a civil war, feel like Portland last night might've been the spark to it..
     
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  9. Kon
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    Kon

    Aug 30, 2020
    I think I was reading the post as if it was his opinion of the situation, not his opinion of whether the cop would get away with it..If so my bad.

    or maybe i'm still confused, i dunno..
     
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  10. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Aug 28, 2020
    On topic of knives...

    The army, navy and airforce are all trained that within 10 metres, you cannot possibly, draw, c---, aim then fire your gun before the guy with a knife lunges at you and stabs you. I assume police would be trained similarly.

    You are also more likely to die/have serious injury from a knife wound over a gunshot wound
     
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  11. Slyk
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    Slyk God made a prophet.

    Aug 28, 2020
    if he had a knife in the car he was reaching for, then the cops will be validated in their shooting, albiet may get a slap for excessive gunfire. where's the source on the knife? hadn't seen that yet
     
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  12. Lucy
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    Lucy #1

    Aug 28, 2020
    lmfao, all the dudes that 17 yr old shot all had sexual assault/domestic violence/assault/ criminal records lmfao. Sure he had no reason to be here, but, he did take 2 s--- c---- off the planet. job well done, useful r-----. enjoy the transition to female from a lifetime of jail rapes lmfaoooooooo america what a place
     
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  13. The Product
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    Aug 28, 2020
    Okay so I would agree wholeheartedly on criminal justice reform. There are many "traditional" police tactics that were rolled out that failed miserably.

    To address the second part of this, are you on the end of backing police defunding? In that case, what you mentioned, would it not be more beneficial to give them more funding to be able to handle the situations of the homeless and mentally ill? I do agree they are under trained for those situations but instead of trying to involve more people and change everything about the approach, why not give the one person, who as you said is the first responder in most cases the training required to control a situation and get them into the right hands?

    I'm not sure if you've heard of the term community policing, which has its flaws itself and is far from being the standard but it has many of the goals of what you speak about. It has been implemented into many departments around the U.S but the problem is they didn't clean sweep the people there that back the "traditional" model. If more departments and communities buy into the new police reform of community policing, we would for the first time in history, see a partnership between police and communities.


    "being non-compliant shouldn't be a death sentence". While I would agree with that's statement in its extreme, why should the job the officers chose have to be? I'm not sure your education level of police situations or this topic in general so I don't mean to offend you but I could name case after case where officers tried to do what you mention and died in the process. I could also name case after case where the officers didn't get a chance to react and ended up dead in the process of a simple traffic stop.

    No I don't think police should be put in a bubble and no I don't think their safety matters more than civilians but they choose to risk their lives for us who don't. They put themselves in between the compliant public and the dangerous. No all police aren't good but all people aren't good either. There are bad people out there with intentions to do bad things and I don't care if they send the police, a social worker, judge judy or a citizen into a domestic dispute, traffic violation or a situation with an unhinged mentally ill person... you are walking into a situation that you know little about and might not have the time to gather all of the facts before a lie or death situation plays out. How confident are you that you would tackle someone with a knife, gun or other weapon? How fast do you think you really have to react if that person decides their life is more important than yours? Known as the Tueller Rule, Even at a distance of 21 ft the average person can close that gap in 2 seconds. What action can you take in two seconds to prevent them from harming you?

    With all that being said, like I said I have no intention of standing on the wrong side of the fight for social justice and police reform. I stand with you and we need to see significant changes But the general public is widely undereducated and want to pretend they would know exactly how to handle these situations with less training than police have received.

    I think the public needs to change as much as anything else. We need to come together for better solidarity which is not being shown. Treat each other with more respect and decrease the domestic violence on all fronts. Specifically on this matter most people view you as for vs. against. You can't have any open dialogue for additional understanding on either end. I think that is a shortcoming of this movement and I hesitate to say anything other than the few recited lines of "change is needed", "BLM" or "I stand with you" in fear of being labelled against when its not that black and white.
     
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  14. Trackz
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    Trackz BARCODE

    Aug 27, 2020
    I'm hearing info that a tasered was tried on Blake. If I can't see police body cam footage or discharge of taser evidence of that happening, then i'm not buying the need to s---t this man 7 times in the back.
     
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  15. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Aug 16, 2020
    On my iPhone I have to turn it sideways and then it shows up—I thought the same thing for awhile cuz I have my phone locked vertical most of the time
     
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  16. Oldboy
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    Aug 16, 2020
    Also. If you believe in what you are saying why do you care if your info is out? What would blm do if you stand by your words ? You believe in them right?

    unless you mean you dont want forum membra to know ? I wouldnt do that to u
     
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  17. Worm
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    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Aug 16, 2020
    I will pay $200 to the man/woman who gets me this losers info [​IMG]
     
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  18. Boos
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    Boos Nova Nation

    Jul 28, 2020
    Definitely voting this time to get this clown out of office. Don’t know if I ever will again after this time though, unless Trump Jr. tries to run next election
     
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  19. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 28, 2020

    Not like this. The largest Clinton ever lead Trump nationally was ~7 points. Biden has consistently been leading Trump by 8-10 points for the past month to month & a half now. Even if we assume some of the state polls that were off in 2016 are off by the same margin in 2020, Biden is still leading.

    obviously a lot can happen from now till November but the election right now, isn’t very close.

    28% is better than 1/4 odds. Something with better than 1/4 odds happening isn’t abnormal. NYT model had issues & they’ve definitely acknowledged that since.
     
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  20. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Jul 23, 2020
    Had a conversation with a “conservative” yesterday & he went on about how there’s nothing wrong with the federal government stepping in to maintain law & order when crime rates are out of hand & local government “isn’t doing anything.” I asked him if he called for Feds to come marching into cities in the 90s when crime rates were at its peak & he claimed I was being “dishonest” & trying to catch him in a “gotcha moment.” Most conservatives don’t actually care about small government, I swear.

    In other news, Portland’s Mayor was tear gassed by Trump’s secret police last night.

     
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