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  1. Evad
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    He’s repeated and said a lot of things but I think this was the big one:

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    Prior to that he also made similar comments on Instagram and had been seen wearing a white lives matter t-shirt with Candace Owens.
     
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    Lmao…
     
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    I already did that joke :Em6:
     
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    He's gonna love Paul
     
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    Oct 29, 2022
    That wiki page is outdated. The claim was debunked a few years ago by a state judicial panel which found that Cole is not a denier.

    Coverage of the case from the American Bar Association:

    https://www.abajournal.com/news/art...on-facebook-is-reprimanded-for-partisan-posts

     
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  6. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    the following paragraph lol:
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    You could just not hang on the every word of people who are, at bare minimum, downplaying the holocaust, if not straight up dog whistling that it didn’t happen lol.
     
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    And yet the investigative panel still decided he wasn't a holocaust denier. That should tell you something.

    The fact that your wiki link doesn't even mention the case should also tell you something. But obviously it doesn't (shocker).

    Who's hanging on his every word? Certainly not me. If you actually read the article I linked to, he calls Kanye West a lunatic, which I obviously don't agree with.

    Historians used to think people were gassed as Dachau as late as the 1990s, when the US holocaust museum confirmed there were never any working gas chambers at that camp and no people were ever gassed there. Was the holocaust museum downplaying the holocaust or dog whistling to nazis? No, of course not.

    Likewise, the idea that an ethnocentric Jew and bona fide nazi hater like Dаvid Cole is deliberately doing those things is equally absurd. You're an idiot, enigma.
     
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  8. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    David Cole literally changed his name to David Stein after the 90s because he didn’t want to face the consequences of pushing holocaust denying B.S. Then he got entrenched in Republican Party politics & got outted by a woman he confessed to lmfao. This guy has zero credibility. Dudes a holocaust denier/revisionist & grifter wrapped into one. He has no kind of higher education on this topic either.

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  9. BIG MONKEY
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    I don't blame him, since the consequences amounted to death in his case. As your link alludes to, he changed his name after an extremist group put a $25,000 bounty on his head and he was forced to recant his views to have it removed.


    http://archive.is/NLsoB#selection-385.0-391.351

    Here's an hysterical rant that went along with the bounty offer, written by Irv Rubin. He kinda sounds like you, LOL.

    He has managed to stir the gullible masses with hatred, lies and deception. Just
    like a low-lying snake that slithers from dark place to dark place, he spreads his
    venom to innocent victims.
    This is Dаvid Cole, who takes pride in his demonic occupation: Holocaust denier
    of the Six Million Jews.
    Cole is a young Jewish man with an evil plan: To alter history and to deny
    documented facts. A revolting and horrible monster is this so-called Jew.
    He rubs shoulders with the neo-Nazi criminals who do their evil deeds for Adolf
    Hitler and who, to this day, continue to spread anti-Semitism through the guise of
    Holocaust revisionist denial.
    What is a Dаvid Cole? Is it a sickness? Is it a mental disease?…After all, this
    Cole mania that the media have played on, don’t you think it’s time that we flush
    this rotten, sick individual down the toilet, where the rest of the waste lies? One less
    David Cole in the world will certainly not end Jew-hatred, but it will have removed
    a dangerous parasitic, disease-ridden bacteria from infecting society….
    Cole’s denial is really a denial toward his own people. He hates the very fact that
    he was born into this world a Jew. But more than anything else, his denial is an
    enormous crime against humanity. This despicable low-life beast is worse than the
    Julius Streichers and Joseph Goebbels. He is more evil than they were—because he
    is a Jew! This pathetic excuse for a human being is a neo-Nazi traitorous sell-out to
    his own Jewish people.
    An evil monster like this does not deserve to live on this earth. All the news
    stories about his life only encourage Cole to feed his sick ego even more, bringing
    attention to his depraved lifestyle. Cole is an abominable psychopath who must be
    stopped. . . . Just as we must get rid of this monster, Cole, we must also get rid of the
    word “revisionism” from our vocabulary. This awful word and Cole, too, must be
    eliminated altogether. There is no argument. There needs to be no more debates,
    only the elimination of the Holocaust deniers. Cole is a sickness, a horrible
    aberration that is spreading like a cancerous sore.…This world would be a happier
    place, indeed, when all the Jew-baiters and Jew-haters have disappeared, especially
    the most vicious hater of them all, Dаvid Cole.

    The forced recantation is what really killed his credibility though. His opinion that Auschwitz wasn't a death camp on the level of the Reinhardt camps actually isn't all that controversial, since in the grand scheme of things it doesn't deviate very much from the standard history. In both versions millions of Jews were gassed.

    As for his view that "there was no overarching, genocidal plan, but an evolving, morphing policy", Raul Hilberg (a top holocaust scholar) said as much in a 1983 speech:

    (Quoted in George De Wan, "The Holocaust in Perspective," Newsday, February 23, 1983)
     
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    Again, that accusation was looked into by a respected judicial body (the Tennessee Board of Judicial Conduct) and found to be false.
     
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    If you want to die on the hill that he was technically a holocaust skeptic/revisionist & not a denier—so be it lmao. Doesn’t make it any better in my book. A lot of those folks are just dog whistling & not openly embracing their denialism because they know they’ll be further outcasted from society than they already are.

    The funniest part about this guy is that after his name change, he chose to make factual based holocaust documentaries that won some awards. He made documentaries about the holocaust that were contrary to the supposed beliefs he holds about the holocaust. Dudes an A1 grifter & you fall for these outcasted losers every single time lol.

    The pattern with you is that you cite some no name pseudointellectual or fringe academic who (without fail) always has some sort of history tied to holocaust skepticism/denialism. Every. Single. Time. Hmmm…I wonder why….

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    Oct 30, 2022
    Guys i think maybe there is some sort of autism going on in this thread
     
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    The proper division is between revisionists and deniers/skeptics, not revisionists/skeptics and deniers, and it's not a technicality. You're clearly only familiar with the term revisionism in its informal, pejorative sense, and unaware of historical revisionism as a normal and healthy process in historical scholarship. Without it history in general would be littered with inaccuracies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_revisionism

    And again, up until fairly recently it was widely believed that people were gassed at Dachau. What would you call the research that led to historians changing their mind about that? What other word is there but revisionism?

    But I'm not dying on any hill, nor am I particularly inclined to defend Cole or his views on the holocaust. I'm simply pointing out you're wrong. The Kanye article I posted had nothing to do with the holocaust anyway, nor did I mention the holocaust before you brought it up. It was YOU who derailed the discussion into a debate about holocaust denial because you thought you caught me in a "gotcha" moment, but as always, you were the one who goofed. Oops!

    Funny, the last time you said that it was over an article published in a top journal about group differences in IQ.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09515089.2019.1697803

    Gee, I wonder why. LOL!!!

    If one or two camps that were initially thought to be death camps turn out not to be death camps, it doesn't follow then that there were no death camps at all and that the holocaust didn't happen. That's a common fallacy people who get into this stuff fall into. On the other hand:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_Industry

    As I've said before, in light of the way the holocaust has been exploited for political/economic gain, the holocaust can be both a hoax and a real historical event.

    hoax
    noun
    1. something intended to deceive or defraud​

    You're welcome for the free education.
     
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    There’s a staunch difference between actual historians researching history & correcting the historical record; and these YouTube experts that you prop up.

    Dachau’s gas chambers not being utilized for mass murder like at other extermination camps isn’t even this new revelation. Historians have been saying this for at least 20 years. You’re here trying to use it as some “gotcha” lmao.

    Spacemonkey be like “actually 6 million jews didn’t die during the holocaust, it was actually 5.999 million. It’s a hoax!”

    You think you’re so much smarter than you actually are & it’s pathetically sad lmfao. Find a new hobby ffs lol.
     
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    Vamos argentina my g
     
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    Oct 30, 2022
    Kanye being crazy is boring by now but the amount of people around I've seen applauding him for speaking 'truth to power' is genuinely disturbing.
     
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    1. The guy you're bitching and sobbing about (presumably because he's a rightist who regularly bashes Mexicans) is a competent, though minor, autodidact historian who's been studying the holocaust since the early 1990s, almost 15 years before YouTube was a thing.

    2. I'm not propping anyone up. I shared his article on Kanye because it was related to the thread topic and I thought it was interesting, especially the part about high Jewish IQ, an important yet underappreciated aspect of Jewish influence.

    I already pointed that out in #47, and apparently you're too stupid to notice that it helps my argument, not yours. And yes, considering it took historians up to HALF A CENTURY to realize the so-called gas chamber (singular, not plural) at Dachau was not used to k--- people, that revelation IS relatively recent. The fact that it took so long to be made official just goes to show that revisionism doesn't exactly work like greased lightning when partisan politics is involved.

    But the idea of Auschwitz not being a death factory isn't exactly new either. Gitta Sereny for example admitted as much in a 1979 article (and once again in her 2002 book The healing wound: experience and reflections, Germany, 1938–2001):

    "... it is important for those of us interested in the truth to recall that Auschwitz, despite its emblematic name, was NOT primarily an extermination camp for Jews, and is not the central case through which to study extermination policy." (New Statesman, 2 November 1979)

    This is exactly Cole's take -- that Auschwitz is at best tangential to the holocaust, which in his view mainly happened at the Aktion Reinhardt camps (Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka). Again, NOT DENIAL.

    The reason Cole is known as a denier and Sereny isn't even though they share the same view on the holocaust is because Cole has been a lot more vocal about it, and because he wasn't afraid to mingle with the likes of David Irving in the course of his research.

    No, that's a willful misreading of what I said. Again: "the holocaust" can refer to two different things: the holocaust racket, or the Nazi genocide of European Jews. The former is clearly a hoax in the sense I gave before, insofar as it misuses and misrepresents the latter for reasons that have nothing to do with historical truth.

    No, none of this stuff means anything to me. I couldn't care less whether Auschwitz was a death camp or a slave labor camp, or how many people died there. Again, I'm just pointing out that you're wrong -- and yes, no matter how times the same dipshits like your posts.
     
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    "I already pointed that out on post 47"
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    "I'm interested in wwii history too" LOL. What a dope. Americans are so stupid.
     
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    But in b4 enigma ignores this and just repeats himself like a gibbering autism patient:


    Hope the cognitive dissonance doesn't break the kid's delicate little brain tho. On the one hand it's telling him he must really be killing it because "big worm" is liking his posts, but on the other hand his sheltered, spoon-fed worldview is shattering all around him. It must be very confusing for the little fella.

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